Pagid RS14 or RS29 (on AP brakes)?

[Franzino]

The new brake pads are now a couple of weeks on my car. Since that time I did the Pagid bedding in procedure, a week of normal slow street driving and 3 trip's to the Nurburgring. The brakes are now awesome..! I use to think my AP set-up was great....now I think the complete AP set-up is really awesome! With changing the brake pads I now have everything on the 100% "I like" level. Everything I wanted more about the AP brakes is now there. I have an increase in initial bite (on street and track), a little more braking power, higher working temperatures on track (650°C => 800°C), slightly better modulation and less ABS interference! :thumbsup:

At this moment the new brake pads are not silent anymore :cry: . They were silent before the bedding in, after the bedding in, on the street, on the track…… I was filled with joy and it was to good to be true! But one day after the Nurburgring trip, they started to make the same squealing noise as the blue ones did. I have let my shop file of the edges (advised by Pagid) and put a really small amount of copper grease on the back of the pad where the pistond thouch the pads (did the same thing with my previous set of blue ones). I was worried that the RS-14 would not brake well when being cold on the street, but this is not the case...

[shimmy]

I thought you swore by the RS14's Shim?? You changed ur mind now??

Not really, I like the rs14 and rs29,

Rs14 last longer but. Think maybe a bit ore aggressive on discs

[cantfind1]

i used pf01 on front and similar result as rs29 but LOADS if hirrible sticky brake dust, never again.

with rs14 i would nect next try rs29 on rear or just stick to rs29 all round

I thought you swore by the RS14's Shim?? You changed ur mind now??

[c_w]

Why would you think the RS29 would less likely to deposit material then the RS14?

Not sure, probably the different compound of the pad, the temp range is very similar and doesn't really tell you anything. Just going off experience, a friend runs RS14s on the front of his car and occasionally gets judder and the discs get the usual pad deposits marks and I have also had them judder on the rear of my car. Whereas with RS29 I've not had any issues at all in general road or track.

Carbone Lorraine RC6 are not too bad, yes the paint can get a little rough like the cars not been waxed for ages, but they're a very good powerful pad.

[Neil M]

RS29's all round, works well for me too.

[DuncanR]

RS29's for me :smt055

+1 here too .. fast boys need good brakes !:-D

[niall1]

RS29's for me :smt055

Just bought them (front & rear). :beer:

[Franzino]

In my experience with my M Coupe the rear brakes do a fair amount of work, having similar sized rear vented discs as the front. I have run RS29 on the front and Carbon Lorraine RC6 (a much higher friction pad) and the braking felt excellent you could really feel the car stopping flat because of the slight increase in rear bias. I was worried about rear locking but it was great.

My recommendation would have been RS29, work very well hot or cold, last AGES, lowish dust and less likely to deposit than RS14.

Why would you think the RS29 would less likely to deposit material then the RS14?

RS14
Constant working temperature 400 – 700°C
Max temperature for short period only: 800°C

RS29 (endurance pad)
Constant working temperature: 400 – 700°C
Max temperature for short period only: 750°C

I have no experience with PFC and Carbon Lorraine. For me personally; I only buy pads from Pagid for track use. Ferodo sounds also ok with some types of pads, EBC is crap and PFC is something I would consider. Carbon Lorraine looks to be to agressive for wheels and paint and I don't want to risk damage on them. I have read some bad reviews about them with people who had paint damage with certain types of CL brake pads.

The RS-14 (front) + RS4-4 (rear) are now 2 days on my car. Last night I did the Pagid bedding in procedure and some positive things came to the surface; brake modulation is better, they brake a little harder and for the moment they are still completely silent (I really hope they stay this way). Next weekend will be the real test on the Nurburgring. Fingers crossed! :wink:

[83SY]

RS29's for me :smt055

[Tech@PFC]

i used pf01 on front and similar result as rs29 but LOADS if hirrible sticky brake dust, never again.

with rs14 i would nect next try rs29 on rear or just stick to rs29 all round

Yeah the .01 is a full race pad so it can be dusty, but we do have low dust low noise pads as well.

Regards,
Charlie

[shimmy]

i used pf01 on front and similar result as rs29 but LOADS if hirrible sticky brake dust, never again.

with rs14 i would nect next try rs29 on rear or just stick to rs29 all round

[Tech@PFC]

Plus one

All porsche guys love the pagids, but i have been using pfc01 06 and now the 08 and absolutely love them. The numbers are related to the year of development. The higher the number the better the life and tech into the pad. I recall the 97s were quite harsh but bit like a wanker. But the 06 are great, not harsh, and longer lasting.

Great modulation, wear, and rotor kindness.

I am not affiliated with pfc. Just love their products!!!

Glad to hear it, that's spot on :smt023

[pkumarm3]

Plus one

All porsche guys love the pagids, but i have been using pfc01 06 and now the 08 and absolutely love them. The numbers are related to the year of development. The higher the number the better the life and tech into the pad. I recall the 97s were quite harsh but bit like a wanker. But the 06 are great, not harsh, and longer lasting.

Great modulation, wear, and rotor kindness.

I am not affiliated with pfc. Just love their products!!!

Hello,

We quite a few to CSL owners run the PFC.01 pads which have excellent track performance as well as good cold bite, we also offer a CSL owners club discount.

Which callipers do you have?

Regards,
Charlie

[Tech@PFC]

Hello,

A lot CSL owners run the PFC.01 pads which have excellent track performance as well as good cold bite, we also offer a CSLR discount.

Which callipers do you have?

Regards,
Charlie

[niall1]

rs14 are great pads but with rs4-2 at rear watch put for some squirreling on track as the back tries to overtake the front!

So what's the recommendation? The last time is was out on track in my car I experienced exactly that 'squirreling' sensation at the rear on heavy braking at the end of a straight. I had Pagid blue (?) pads front and rear. They were on the car when I bought it. I was about to order a set of new pads for a track day next month so is the recommendation for the CSL - RS14 (front) and RS4-4 (rear)?