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  • Nate047
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    Originally posted by ShaunG View Post

    I personally would not go down the road of custom ABS unless you're trying to solve the serious issue. Anyway, I run a MK20 2001 M3 as a track car and have set some very fast laps with just tires and suspension.
    Awesome, yea I'm glad to hear that it's not a bad candidate for what I want. Sounds like it works for you! What's a good brake setup for a car like yours? Sounds like what I am hoping to achieve myself. I was gonna just start with PFC pads and stock or at least stock size rotors, send it for a bit and reevaluate. I have 08s and Direct Drive rotors on my E36, with a tire like the RS4 or AD08R I never felt the setup was inadequate. Can I expect something similar from the E46? Or do you really need to go with a BBK of some sort, home brewed or otherwise?

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  • eacmen
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    Originally posted by ShaunG View Post

    I personally would not go down the road of custom ABS unless you're trying to solve the serious issue. Anyway, I run a MK20 2001 M3 as a track car and have set some very fast laps with just tires and suspension.
    Do you run with DSC on?


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  • ShaunG
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    Originally posted by Nate047 View Post
    That all sounds a bit more hardcore than anything I have in mind. I will probably be on sticky street tires and don't see the car ever having aero.
    I personally would not go down the road of custom ABS unless you're trying to solve the serious issue. Anyway, I run a MK20 2001 M3 as a track car and have set some very fast laps with just tires and suspension.

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  • eacmen
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    Originally posted by George Hill View Post

    Which shops are those?
    https://3dmmotorsport.com/collection...standalone-abs

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  • Nate047
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    That all sounds a bit more hardcore than anything I have in mind. I will probably be on sticky street tires and don't see the car ever having aero.

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  • George Hill
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    Originally posted by sc_tr0jan_m3 View Post
    there's some boutique shops that can 'hack' up the firmware of the ABS/DSC module. you provide some specific measurements of your car and they apply a custom program to your module. it's very popular in the racing community.
    Which shops are those?

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  • sc_tr0jan_m3
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    there's some boutique shops that can 'hack' up the firmware of the ABS/DSC module. you provide some specific measurements of your car and they apply a custom program to your module. it's very popular in the racing community.

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  • George Hill
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    Originally posted by sc_tr0jan_m3 View Post
    plus the MK60 unite you can send back to bosch for a customized DSC/ABS firmware upgrade too!
    Can you expand on this?

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  • sc_tr0jan_m3
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    plus the MK60 unite you can send back to bosch for a customized DSC/ABS firmware upgrade too!

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  • eacmen
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    Originally posted by Albino09 View Post
    If you're going to run without the DSC on, there's not much to be gained by wishing you had a MK60 car. The primary benefit of that system is being able to run with a functional DSC that doesn't interfere too often and can save you from getting into trouble.
    Concur with this assessment. MK60 allows you to code M-Track mode. Which is supposed to be a more forgiving traction control, but many also claim it intervenes too much.

    I just coded it myself. Waiting for a track day to test it out.


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  • CrookedCommie
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    Originally posted by Albino09 View Post
    If you're going to run without the DSC on, there's not much to be gained by wishing you had a MK60 car. The primary benefit of that system is being able to run with a functional DSC that doesn't interfere too often and can save you from getting into trouble.
    False. ABS is much better. The DSC does not turn off the ABS in either MK20 or MK60.

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  • Albino09
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    If you're going to run without the DSC on, there's not much to be gained by wishing you had a MK60 car. The primary benefit of that system is being able to run with a functional DSC that doesn't interfere too often and can save you from getting into trouble.

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  • Nate047
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    Originally posted by eacmen View Post
    I had an early 01 track car. Blast to drive. But on sticky tires (RE71) had to run with the DSC off. ABS was fine but the traction control was too invasive. I think it should make a fine track duty car if enough preventative care is put into it. Good luck!
    Right on, I'm fine with running without ASC entirely.

    Originally posted by CrookedCommie View Post
    I'd go MK60 if I had to it over again. My car has never stopped right.
    Can you expand on that a little, like what does it do that you don't like?

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  • CrookedCommie
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    I'd go MK60 if I had to it over again. My car has never stopped right.

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  • eacmen
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    I had an early 01 track car. Blast to drive. But on sticky tires (RE71) had to run with the DSC off. ABS was fine but the traction control was too invasive. I think it should make a fine track duty car if enough preventative care is put into it. Good luck!

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