New Zealand & Australia Owner's Thread !!

[NZ_M3]

NZ M3 Where are you geting the Alcon 6 pot monoblock from in the USA if you dont mind me asking ??

I am actually getting the kit off a private seller, but he purchased it off this crowd (they will send overseas)

http://www.stasisengineering.com/Category_Select.aspx?VID=147

Or contact Jason (sales manager)
Jason Whipple
Sales Manager
STaSIS Engineering

https://www.stasisengineering.com

29647 Arnold Dr.
Sonoma CA 95476
707-935-9700 ex. 119
[email protected]


I'll put up a list later of all those US companies I've personally had dealing with and purchased stuff and have found to be reliable.

[Mark CSL]

Cool thanks :thumbs:

[NZ_M3]

It's here :thumbs: :-D :-D

Finally they are here ... will post up photos once installed.

Main reason for going with Alcon:
- Bolt on application - NO SPACERS to clear the CSL fronts
- Excellent range of pad choices
- Monoblock design
- huge 365mm discs

can't wait !!!

[Mark CSL]

They look good :thumbs:

[NZCSLBMW]

Looks awesome Tom,
Your so good at trolling the net for bits.
I was considering Movit http://www.movit.de/images/bmwcsl01.jpg
but your Alcon look smaller in the casting, and better for unsprung weight. Your CSL would have to be the most tricked in NZ. Cheers Rob

[david]

if you"re considering mov'it, go thru Mov'it scandinava

( http://www.movit-scandinavia.com/en/default.asp ) it's cheaper ( No V.A.T) because out of europe, so 20% less on final price, the contact name is Per ericsson

my friend has a Mov'it complete brake kit front and rear, it's really good stuff, in fact, mov'it iis simply Brembo's

[NZCSLBMW]

Thanks for info David, What, in your engineering opinion, would be the best choice of brakes considering performance as a priority and value for money?

Hi Tom,
Using braided brake lines, will you have a hassel with MOT ? (Ministry of Transport re Warrant of Fitness) I have heard they don't approve this as they can't check behind the covering.
I expect your friendly garage will just issue the warrant.

Cheers Rob

[NZ_M3]

Thanks for info David, What, in your engineering opinion, would be the best choice of brakes considering performance as a priority and value for money?

Hi Tom,
Using braided brake lines, will you have a hassel with MOT ? (Ministry of Transport re Warrant of Fitness) I have heard they don't approve this as they can't check behind the covering.
I expect your friendly garage will just issue the warrant.

Cheers Rob

Rob

The braided lines are completely legal and wofable - these lines are ATE braided lines which come with FMVSS106 standards (so WOF compliant in NZ - see Land Transport Rules Light Vehicle Brakes 2002 Rule 32014 - clause 2.5(5)(f))

Another braided line with the FMVSS106 standard is made by Goodridge. My personal opinion the ATEs have better fittings and clampings.

To be WOF compliable the lines must have the FMVSS106 tags on the lines itself - mine does and I've double checked the LVV rules and checked with my cert guy (I've also checked with three friends with WOF licences and they all said as long as it has the tags showing FMVSS106 then it's completely legal without a Low Volume Cert). I will still have to get a cert for the brake upgrade and the enlarged discs however - no trouble there as it's a bolt on kit (from one of the top three brands - Brembo, Alcon, AP Racing).

Rob before you consider Mov'it Just make sure that you have sufficient clearance - you can't legally run spacers larger than 5mm in NZ - that's why I didn't go with the stoptech or brembo kits.

The other option is the proven and popular AP Racing kit - but in my opinion the Alcon is a much better kit (monoblock ect, better pad choice and true floating design discs)

p.s. I've got the templates for virtually all the bolt on big brake kits out there for the CSL, and the Alcon has by far the lowest profile out of all the brake kits out there (even compared to the AP Racing) - the Alcon kit will actually fit under OEM 18inch wheels without using spacers.

[NZCSLBMW]

Thanks for info Tom, great to hear provision for complying braided lines are in place. I like the look of your calipers. The brakes are the only soft spot on the car ( and my Continental tyres), I slightly buckled a disc by parking up when the brakes were quite hot, and making a ping ping noise, you could feel them moving on their shafts as you did a heavy brake but over time they have straightened again. Do you expect you wont have a problem like this with Alcon or better brakes?
At race meetings I have noticed some mechanics rock the car back and forth until the discs cool, and others don't worry , is this because of the quality of the gear they are using, some just won't distort?

[NZ_M3]

Thanks for info Tom, great to hear provision for complying braided lines are in place. I like the look of your calipers. The brakes are the only soft spot on the car ( and my Continental tyres), I slightly buckled a disc by parking up when the brakes were quite hot, and making a ping ping noise, you could feel them moving on their shafts as you did a heavy brake but over time they have straightened again. Do you expect you wont have a problem like this with Alcon or better brakes?
At race meetings I have noticed some mechanics rock the car back and forth until the discs cool, and others don't worry , is this because of the quality of the gear they are using, some just won't distort?

Good habit not to let the car sit in one spot after a couple of hot laps around the circuit - I do it all the time when I used to hit the track with the integra racecar. The stock rotors will warp real easy if you don't have a cool down lap or two.

The Alcon discs are a true floating design - unlike the OEM design - these sit on a floating spring setup rather than a bolt down two piece setup - allowing for full proper thermo expansion. I've read several reports about the AP discs warping under hard use and have yet to come across one for the Alcon discs - I am guessing superior design for the Alcon discs. Either way I am not worried, as everything in the Alcon disc has a part number and you can order individual replacements parts, and seals and discs without the mounting bell.


Pad choices for those wondering about the Alcon kit.
Mintex MDB2607
Alcon 4497
Pagid U8028
SBS 3061
Ferodo FRP3081

The kit comes with the SBS pads (not the best but will do for now).

Should have these installed by the end of next week if all goes well.

[NZ_M3]

Here are some photos of the brake kit fitted to a genuine M3 CSL here in Auckland, New Zealand. Zero issues with wheel clearance. I ended up trimming the brake dust cover to accommodate the larger discs (had to trim off about 1/4 of the total surface area).

I have to say I am absolutely blown away by how good these brakes are. Straight away the pedal feel, braking power and brake balance was more than apparant.

The mechanic that fitted these brakes for me works for BMW NZ and is one of the head mechanics for Mini Challenge Race series here in NZ, Porsche GT3 Cup Racing and NZ V8 touring car championships. He was impressed with the build quality, fitment and overall performance of these brakes. The certification process was straight forward with little to no issues (I had to get longer wheel bolts given the slight increase in disc bell thickness - yes a strange one in my opinion, but the cert guy's God when it comes to getting certification in NZ and for the car to be road legal, so we tracked down some 5 series wheels bolts which were slightly longer and did the job required - I've actually also got some longer ones coming from Turnermotorsport also).

As already stated in another post this kit is great in the sense that you don't need to run spacers on all OEM wheels, 18s, 19s, ZCP, CSL

You also have great brake pad choices, all the following fits:
Mintex MDB2607
Alcon 4497
Pagid U8028
SBS 3061
Ferodo FRP3081


The calipers themselves are 3.5kg each for those also wondering.


Now on with the photos.

If any of you want any specific shots of the kit, please let me know and I'll take them.








And for those curious about clearance, here's two shots take from inside the wheel:

[M3_CSL]

CSL from Australia

Hi NZ_M3,

How are you doing?

Said hello to you on the other forum already... Richie here from Australia.... saying hi again!

NIIIICE looking brakes you have got there!!! Congrats!!!

cheers,

richie