Brakes!?

[sicoyne]

This is my first post on here so first I'll say Hi to everyone!!

I'm hoping to be in the market for a CSL in the next 6 months or so, havent driven one yet though, and have been looking at the cars currently available.

I've already Registered with another Forum, and asked lots of questions on there.

One thing people seen kean on is AP brakes. I know AP are good brakes but has anybody fitted, or thinking of fitting anything else?

The reason I ask is that I know of a guy who has RS6/Gallardo 8 Pots on the Front of his car and Boxster S front Calipers on the rear. I know one of his friends through him working at a Porsche Specialist I used to use and he says the car stops on a 5pence. Somebody posted on the mtorque and they were about to fit the same set-up. Coming from a 964RS I am used to good brakes and this will be one of the first things I change if need be.

Thanks in advance

P.S. Couldnt use my usual Username for Forums as I clicked on the wrong option regarding being over 13 or not....only just over it - by 20 years!! Ooops :banghead:

[Mark CSL]

Welcome Sicoyne
take a look here i have these on order they are also makeing me a 4pot rear
set up as well

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=443&highlight=hispec+brakes

:thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

[SpineOnABap]

Hispec really are nasty nasty nasty nasty. Possibly the worst quality you could put on.

[deleted_user_0_csl]

Hispec really are nasty nasty nasty nasty. Possibly the worst quality you could put on.

are you basing that on experience,or what a person selling a/p's has told you :whistle:

[SpineOnABap]

Neither. One of my friends does a lot of brake repairs for motorsport or tuning outfits (skimming, refurbs etc). It seems the quality of workmanship is very poor on the hispec stuff, which may present itself as a problem to the driver, not just the person fitting it. His view is that they are the worst out of all the different makes he sees.

Each to their own though eh :smokin:

[deleted_user_0_csl]

well i've had three kit's from them on my car's,i've also had a/p's & i can't see where the workmanship/quality is any better or worse,maybe i'm just lucky :thumbs:

[sicoyne]

How about getting brackets made and fitting something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260270604649&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=016

I know some people will say dont use other Brands but thats just daft if they are a good/better than that offered by BM. I'd be interested in fitting some Porsche Big Reds or something like the Ebay ones above. I have experience of Porsche brakes (last couple of cars were Porsche) and they are superb...never fade, always reliable and great stopping power. Should easily be able to pick a Full set up from a breaker like www.Porsch-apart.co.uk Either 993 Turbo Brakes, Cayenne Turbo Brakes or any that are the 6 pot front and 4 pot rear.

[Mark CSL]

the kit comes with performance friction discs
and they are some of the best discs on the Market
there are a few people with AP kits that now use this disc as they are better than the AP discs

But each to there own

[Bravo73]

I know some people will say dont use other Brands but thats just daft if they are a good/better than that offered by BM. I'd be interested in fitting some Porsche Big Reds or something like the Ebay ones above. I have experience of Porsche brakes (last couple of cars were Porsche) and they are superb...never fade, always reliable and great stopping power. Should easily be able to pick a Full set up from a breaker like www.Porsch-apart.co.uk Either 993 Turbo Brakes, Cayenne Turbo Brakes or any that are the 6 pot front and 4 pot rear.

I've said it before but I'll say it again: :blalalala:

"Eurghh. Why would you want Audi and Porker parts on your BMW CSL?"

:hahaha:

[sicoyne]

I know some people will say dont use other Brands but thats just daft if they are a good/better than that offered by BM. I'd be interested in fitting some Porsche Big Reds or something like the Ebay ones above. I have experience of Porsche brakes (last couple of cars were Porsche) and they are superb...never fade, always reliable and great stopping power. Should easily be able to pick a Full set up from a breaker like www.Porsch-apart.co.uk Either 993 Turbo Brakes, Cayenne Turbo Brakes or any that are the 6 pot front and 4 pot rear.

I've said it before but I'll say it again: :blalalala:

"Eurghh. Why would you want Audi and Porker parts on your BMW CSL?"

:hahaha:

Because they make great brakes (Porsche do anyway, cant speak for Audi) :whistle:

[Mark CSL]

Now Now boys i think the csl brakes are good but not for trackdays
:whistle:

[M3ACS]

Ive had a few brake kits in the past HiSpec, FCarbon from CA Automotive, and now APs on the CSL.

I found the HiSpec and FCarbon very similar both in design and performance, yes the disk size seemed larger than the APs but this caused me problems with track wheels as i prefer the cost of 18" tyres rather than 19" ones which the HiSpec and FCarbon needed for clearance. In general performance was better than stock.

In contrast the CSL came with APs alround and i can now fit 18" alloys which is better for me and choice of wheels on track. I would say the APs look of better quality and i feel they give better performance than any other brake kit ive had in the past even though they have a smaller disk diameter. This may honestly be a placebo effect of knowing i have APs but i do feel a differance and do believe the quality is better and more solid. If that makes sense. APs do cost more but now ive tried a few kits id prefer to pay the extra knowing i have a solid setup.

Ill stop rambling now but thats just my 2p.

If your in further doubt id suggest speaking to Simpson Motorsport as they have a few stories about certain BBK they have seen fail when put under the pressure and can probably give better advise than I.

[Mark CSL]

Thanks M3ACS all info welcome :thumbs:

[Andyk]

Now Now boys i think the csl brakes are good but not for trackdays
:whistle:

You're right there Mark...never had a problem with the standard ones for road use.

Will say that Simpsons motorsport said that the standard disc are OK it's really only the pads that need changing on the front.

[derek]

ap brakes

just bought set of ap's one of the calipers had 2 wrong pistons, they were too large, worth checking before you take off the old brakes that all pistons can be pushed home, this is an issue known to ap, cost me 3 days work through not having a car, worked out to be expensive brakes