Pad upgrade

[Andyk]

Sure it's been spoken about a million times but what is the best pad upgrade for fast road use using the standard discs. Looked at the specialists and each one has said something different....so any experiences.

[SpineOnABap]

In order of preference from my own experience - Pagid RS14, Pagid RS19 (if you can find them), Ferrodo DS2500
Take your pick, they're all great.
The only things I'd avoid like the plague are anything EBC and Pagid RS29. In my experience they're pretty pretty rubbish.

PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road" :bigcry: There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy :thumbs: but whoever started it needs to be shot :bigcry: )

[Andyk]

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PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road" :bigcry: There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy :thumbs: but whoever started it needs to be shot :bigcry: )[/quote]

HeHe..yes you are right....what silly phrase, now you mention it....fast road must surely be a track......

Thanks for advice. Do you get any brake squeal with any of them?

[SpineOnABap]

Yes, lots of squeal. That's the trade-off of any high-performance pad. They don't 'like' regular town-style driving, and over a week or two will get noisier to the point of pain :bigcry: However, if you give them a monstering then it'll shut them up. I do a bedding-in type procedure every couple of weeks to keep them in check

[Andyk]

OK thanks. So looks like will have to put with a bit of sqeal. Will pop down to Simpsons next week see what they can do.

[Mark CSL]

andy I use red stuff front and rear and they are great
Value and work well

I have ferodo ds2500 in now and think
The red stuff are just as good for half the money

[Andyk]

Mark the red stuff certainly seems great value...I like that....against the others. Do they last well and what about squeal with them.

Spineonabap, you don't rate the red stuff then...any reason.

[Mark CSL]

The red stuff front and rear cost £80 for the standard CSL pads
And £86 for the big brake kit on my CSL
And they dont make any noise they lasted 6 trackdays

but so do the ds2500 that cost £177+vat for the fronts :banghead:

You do the maths but i like value for money
also the best move for the standard calipers is to fit uprated hoses and castrol racing fluid this makes the standard pads alot better if you ask me :thumbs:

[rs32]

the OEM Textar pads are indeed pretty rubbish - I had the Pagid Blues on the previous M3 and they squealed like mad after while but the braking performance was excellent.

probably going to try the DS2500's when my free BMW set run out or start annoying me too much - the CSL standard setup gives exactly the same problems as the normal M3, too much heat build-up and fade after about 3 seconds use.

Performance Friction pads are supposed to be as good as the Pagid's but without the squeal - so maybe worth a try as an alternative ?

[SpineOnABap]

You do the maths but i like value for money

Yeah but you use Lo-Spec calipers so EBC are fine for you :gayfight:

:bigcry:

[SpineOnABap]

Performance Friction pads are supposed to be as good as the Pagid's but without the squeal - so maybe worth a try as an alternative ?

Apparently yes :thumbs: Not tried them myself but a lot of the serious boys run them on the CSL. A lot of people also run the Pagid RS29, and seem happy with them, but my own experience was that they're terrible. Fade too easily and fall to bits. Which is odd as 'on paper' they should be as good as the RS19.

[Mark CSL]

You do the maths but i like value for money

Yeah but you use Lo-Spec calipers so EBC are fine for you :gayfight:

:bigcry:

Come to knockhill and we shall see if your APs are better than my
Lo-spec Calipers LOL ( now theres a Challenge ) :whistle:

[Andyk]

Are the standard callipers the same as a standard M3, as the red stuff is pretty cheap compaired to others and direct you get 10% discount.

I'm with you Mark I like value for money and from what you say they seem to fit the bill.

http://www.ebcbrakesdirect.com/car/parts_pad.asp?part=pad&make=BMW&model=M3&year=3%2E2+%28E46%29+%282000%2D2006%29

[david]

I had some EBC Yellow stuff on standard Csl brakes, well I found them pretty good for OG brakes, got even 11 laps on the ring with them and was happy on the setup (standard Csl with EBC pads)

[Andyk]

Thanks David thats a great help...seems the way to go.