first drive on cups today not mega impressed very noisy and very hard make's the car feel like it did on kw's horrible definetly keeping my ps2's now :thumbs:
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The comment about KW is interesting, because just the fact that KW are fitted doesn't mean the car should be instantly amazing. They are adjustable so have to be setup properly, and it takes quite a bit on know how rather than just sticking them on and using them.
A poorly setup KW configuration could feel rubbish.
And the Cups - I think they're the best feeling tyres on the CSL on the road. Yes they're firm and noisey but the whole car is hardcore and noisey - that's why we bought it :thumbs:
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Kw dont have the full range of adjustment to suit road that is why they are not as good as Intrax 2. Drove my CSL with Intrax forst ime lasty week and the road setting by Simpsons was not as hard as OEM but as good on road. Got to try a bit of adjustment now for road to see what happens and the off to Silverstone in March to chase Nathan!
But cups are great on road and track. Live with them Dave until they have had the edges taken off and you WILL love them. They are a great tyre. :thumbs:
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Well Ive KWs on mine with PS2s and Im finding Ive got it set a little hard for B road use. Trunk and Track it feels fine, but as soon as I get onto a bumpy B road the car feels a wee bit skittish when the surface is uneven, and there's not much give if I hit something.
Now the better weather is here I'll spend a bit of time getting the bump / rebound set right - I set it up to a tuners reccomendation. Ive the Fast Road Geo settings on too. The tuner told me they'd go softer than standard susp. Id have liked Intrax, but theyre twice the price and Im rookie driver.
Mark took me for my first spin with Cups on sat, they were very sticking round the track. I was running PS2s and honestly couldnt fault them.
My car is just for fun (mostly summer, but still all year round) and Im now wondering if Cups are necessary for a driver of my skill.
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Originally posted by SpineOnABapThe comment about KW is interesting, because just the fact that KW are fitted doesn't mean the car should be instantly amazing. They are adjustable so have to be setup properly, and it takes quite a bit on know how rather than just sticking them on and using them.
A poorly setup KW configuration could feel rubbish.
And the Cups - I think they're the best feeling tyres on the CSL on the road. Yes they're firm and noisey but the whole car is hardcore and noisey - that's why we bought it :thumbs:
Spot on , really could not of put that better myself :thumbs:
Hated the KW's at first , but once they had settled and I had tweaked them to my preference and driving style/ needs they were perfect.
Cups came with the CSL and were developed with it , they are awesome road tyres WHEN they have warmed up properly , tons more grip and give more road feel , and better driving experience.
Would not right them off on one outing :whistle:
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my car came with kw's and it was really hard and really low backed off all the damping still to hard admitedly did't touch the spring adjustment but im sure that is just height anyway, could'nt get on with it changed back to standard instantly transformed it into a nicer car more planted and safer feeling car would go intrax as it is suppose to be softer than oe but cant justify the price
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Have you been on track with them yet Daz?Originally posted by DazBlackCSLHated the KW's at first , but once they had settled and I had tweaked them to my preference and driving style/ needs they were perfect.
You'll have the same FR Geo as me I'd think, but can you remember what Bump & Rebound settings you've got yours on?
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No not yet , but I was working on the idea that std I was happy on road and track , but could drive faster as I got more confident ... so getting them set right for the road ( fast road )...and then trying them on track , although when I first did all this , I was not planning to be racing in the CSL cup :whistle: , so will be on track on full race set up in my track car most of time , for testing , qualy and race .. so my road car will prob do less track days as a result , and poss only the odd one , and nurburgring etc , so makes sense for me to have the perfect set up for road really ... for what I need day to day :-D
Which is how it is now with Cups :drool: , will check what settings the guys have done , I know lazy , but im up there so much thats its just easier for thorneys guys to tweak and adjust as I need :thumbs:
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