Bye bye CSL. Hello GT3

[NZ_M3]

NZ

I'll always have a soft spot for the CSL, and would love to experience a fully sorted, 400bhp CSL with cams, diff, suspension, brakes and remap all sorted. The induction noise is just awesome, but then the flat 6 scream of the GT3 is .......

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...


The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

[Andyk]

I was never a fan of the mrk2 with those runny egg lights....mrk1 was much better looking. But then I saw this one.

[Andyk]

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

[Jeff]

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

That's me, make me an offer

[Jeff]

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...


The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

As for the sound, the Manthey kit I think is a different world of flat 6 sound. Makes it pure race car. I'm biased of course but there is no comparison of the sound from a standard GT3 and the Manthey equiv. I think it's a bit like the CSL as the Manthey kit rids the car of the air box, the MAF and just has a cup filter straight onto the engine. Then the sounds from the full headers, cats and new boxes change it again. at 8000rpm you'd think you were in a proper race car.

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

[Housey]

Where the GT3 scores is when you get it over 6000rpm at which point it has a spine tingling wail to it that sounds fantastic. The CSL sounds great at most speeds and from the outside coming towards you sounds epic....until it drives past and then is sounds shit with the tinny rasp that all E46 M's suffer from. When we did the rolling road event at Thorney Motorsport with MTorque I don't think anyone would argue that the GT3's sound fantastic at full chat on the rollers.

[glendog74]

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

GT3 just edges away on the straights! I was all over a yellow Mk.1 on braking and in the corners on Saturday but he wouldn't budge knowing that he would pull a big enough lead before the next set of corners :moan:

Admittedly it did have 2 lardy blokes in it! :whistle: :hahaha:

[david]

I think we need a new section on the Csl register forum "Csl + GT3 garage..."

I made the same "jump" a few months ago... but keep that Csl, No way I can sell that bmw weapon... :thumbs:



:whistle:

[glendog74]

Registered in Luxembourg David?

[david]

Yes, I have a "local address" there.. it help when you get caught by speedcam's in France, No contracts between France/luxembourg for speed tickets.... :whistle: only Belgium has a partership for speedtickets with luxembourg...

[glendog74]

Yes, I have a "local address" there.. it help when you get caught by speedcam's in France, No contracts between France/luxembourg for speed tickets.... :whistle: only Belgium has a partership for speedtickets with luxembourg...

Good thinking! :hahaha:

[Andyk]

That's me, make me an offer

Car looks great Jeff. Caught me eye straight away..:thumbs:

[Nords]

GT3 just edges away on the straights! I was all over a yellow Mk.1 on braking and in the corners on Saturday but he wouldn't budge knowing that he would pull a big enough lead before the next set of corners :moan:

Admittedly it did have 2 lardy blokes in it! :whistle: :hahaha:

GD, down the back straight at Donny I was pulling this one in for the first half due to better speed through Coppice. There was one lap where I caught him at Macleans and had to sit behind him until that straight. He pulled to the right, indicated and kept the power on all the way down to Goddards. We were exactly the same but the CSL was alot better on the brakes (25-30 yards better)...

[Jeff]

Car looks great Jeff. Caught me eye straight away..:thumbs:

Cheers, I'm hoping for another CSL buddy to PX with as it does everyone a favour but hey, money is money.

Funniest calls so far.

Would I like to PX a Skyline R34 and Evo for my car?
Would I like to PX it for a 993 C2. Ah no!

[Nords]

It does look very nice Jeff, I hope a CSL matches up!