Bye bye CSL. Hello GT3

[glendog74]

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

GT3 just edges away on the straights! I was all over a yellow Mk.1 on braking and in the corners on Saturday but he wouldn't budge knowing that he would pull a big enough lead before the next set of corners :moan:

Admittedly it did have 2 lardy blokes in it! :whistle: :hahaha:

[Housey]

Where the GT3 scores is when you get it over 6000rpm at which point it has a spine tingling wail to it that sounds fantastic. The CSL sounds great at most speeds and from the outside coming towards you sounds epic....until it drives past and then is sounds shit with the tinny rasp that all E46 M's suffer from. When we did the rolling road event at Thorney Motorsport with MTorque I don't think anyone would argue that the GT3's sound fantastic at full chat on the rollers.

[Jeff]

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...


The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

As for the sound, the Manthey kit I think is a different world of flat 6 sound. Makes it pure race car. I'm biased of course but there is no comparison of the sound from a standard GT3 and the Manthey equiv. I think it's a bit like the CSL as the Manthey kit rids the car of the air box, the MAF and just has a cup filter straight onto the engine. Then the sounds from the full headers, cats and new boxes change it again. at 8000rpm you'd think you were in a proper race car.

As for performance I can't comment not having driven a CSL in anger like the GT3. To be honest I don't think there would be much in it apart from down a straight.

[Jeff]

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

That's me, make me an offer

[Andyk]

There's another Manthey GT3 for sale...he's looking for a CSL in exchange.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/984428.htm

[Andyk]

I was never a fan of the mrk2 with those runny egg lights....mrk1 was much better looking. But then I saw this one.

[NZ_M3]

NZ

I'll always have a soft spot for the CSL, and would love to experience a fully sorted, 400bhp CSL with cams, diff, suspension, brakes and remap all sorted. The induction noise is just awesome, but then the flat 6 scream of the GT3 is .......

To be honest I thought the CSL sounded better than the boxer 6 of any Porsche ... meh ...


The MK1 996 GT3 is pretty much on par performance wise with the CSL .. the MK2 is definitely a step up and the 997 GT3 (or the RS) is quite a bit more compared to the CSL.

Having said that however the CSL is much easier to go fast around a track vs a GT3 - put two equal drivers in either car and the GT3 would be quicker no doubt, but put an above average driver in the CSL and it'd be similar to the GT3.

Both are great cars - I would happily own either for sure - and a Manthey example is even more desirable for sure!!

Some pictures of the interior perhaps??

[Housey]

I think the 996 is pretty ugly

Oh I agree, ugly as sin this:


:whistle:

Mine was silver. :smt055

[bryce]

GT3 seems the natural progression for me. Though it'd need to be a 997 as I think the 996 is pretty ugly. Though the Mk1 is the best looking of all the 996s.

[Ade]

Is everyone the same then, chopping between 996 GT3 and CSL's? I look forward to getting into a GT3 some time in the future.

Lovely example mate, I'm loving it.

There is no doubt that the PE is another level on track, and the allure of the GT3 is that it takes a long time to discover the last 3%. Few (if any?) cars reward as the GT3 does on track and also possess the engineering integrity to do the Tescos run with ease, everyday if necessary. Where the GT3 is 70/30 track/road, the CSL feels more suited to fast road driving (in standard form) and is probably more 70/30 road/track (although I have yet to take my CSL on track).

Both are awesome cars that are probably the finest of their ilk :thumbs:

[sailorbaz]

Is everyone the same then, chopping between 996 GT3 and CSL's? I look forward to getting into a GT3 some time in the future.

Lovely example mate, I'm loving it.

[Ade]

Glad you're enjoying the Manthey'3 Terry :smt023 Enjoy her whilst in good health! :beer:

And yes, Terry looked after his CSL perfectly... just for me! :supz:

[Nords]

Housey's was a white (I think?) GT3 rather than an RS. Yep, both great cars. Did PE buy your CSL Terry (swap deal type thing?)

[csl_mba]

Housey did you have a bright orange one??

[Housey]

Well he's enjoying the CSL at the moment, I can confirm that. Cracking Manthey GT3 you have there, epic tool and the ideal change from a CSL though I suspect you'll have to play yourself into the GT3 as its very different to the CSL and even more raw.

Enjoy I adored my GT3.