CSL v's M3 - Exact part differences needed!!

[Craig]

Hi folks,

This is maybe one for the CSL guru guy's, I need to know EVERY difference between the CSL and a normal M3. I'm talking everything, wiring looms, etc.

I know the following are different;

- Plastic Boot
- Carbon Roof
- Front Bumper
- Rear Diffuser
- Exhaust
- Sill Plates
- Seats / Door Cards / Centre Console
- Steering Wheel
- Wheels
- Engine & Airbox

But need to know what wiring looms are different, i.e ones leading the the steering wheel, and maybe tailgate? Ideally need to know every single difference right down to nuts and bolts.

I presume theres no major differences, and everything would be transferable from a CSL to an M3.

Thanks, Craig!

[karbonkid]

Let us know why your asking and it may make it easier to answer.

[Craig]

All will be revealed, I just need to check I can give details without implication myself or anyone else. I own a CSL and would like to know what parts vary from a standard M3.

[shane@mbtech]

All will be revealed, I just need to check I can give details without implication myself or anyone else. I own a CSL and would like to know what parts vary from a standard M3.

You have wrapped it:whistle:

[Craig]

Its a bit more complex than that, it's in the hands of solicitors fighting out the case. Once I've spoke to them tomorrow regarding posting pictures and information' i'll post the details if it's not going to cause any issues.

For the moment I need to work out if a payout is not recieved what I do as there are several parts left which are un-marked and could be either sold on or used in a re-shell. Even been considering building an E30 M3 w/ CSL engine and SMG.

[NZ_M3]

Confirmed differences:

- Engine block (supposedly picked from the least flawed cast) – The blocks have the same part numbers as M3, Z4, but the full short block is a different part number 11007833675
- Engine head (exhaust valve and intake/exhaust cams - longer duration, same lift) – intake cam shaft 11317835041 exhaust cam shaft 11317835043 Exhaust Valve 11347833676 (30,5/5,95mm) – the valve springs are exactly the same
- Intake plenum (carbon airbox as we like to call it) Air Collector 11617833496 filter 13727838625 The other half of the carbon box: 11617833497 and control unit 11617833498 all the other ducting 11617833646; 11617833645; 11617833648; 13717896774 intake grill 51117895883
- Extractors/Headers (same as post 2005 M3s and Z4) 11627833500; 11627833643
- Cat converter (200 cell) 18307833673
- X pipe, resonators (thinner material - slightly lighter) 18107833503
- Rear muffler - slightly lighter 18107833504
- Different ECU - 25% more capacity 12147837328; 12147834982
- Different SMG control unit program 23607837731
- Pseudo Alpha N engine management (delete of MAF, but still runs a MAP sensor, and air temp sensor 13621739510- debate as to whether this is just for idle control however) MAP sensor part number 13627833561
- Different traction control system with M track mode on steering wheel (much like the DCT mode in new E9X series)
-Different ABS control program
- Shorter steering ratio 14.5:1 (compared with 15.4:1 on M3) 32132282647 (same steering rack as the M3 CS)

-Front bumper (carbon fiber with incorporate bumper support) silver grey 51117896820 Sapphire Black 51117895950
- Roof (carbon fiber) 41007895382;
- Rear diffuser (carbon fiber) - the bumper is the same as M3 so is the carrier – silver grey 51127896832 Sapphire Black 51127895985
- Boot lid (Moulded sheet plastic - it's not fiberglass people, it's much harder and more rigid) 41007895884
- Rolled rear fenders to accommodate wider rear rims. Bare Full Body Skeleton for CSL 41007895934 (part numbers for the rear fenders are the same as M3, but the CSL comes from the factory with ROLLED rear fenders)
- Different wheels (NOT magnesium, cast aluminium) made by BBS 36112282650; 36112282999
- Suspension and spring (sachs, shorter spring and different damper and rebound rates) fronts 31312282505; 31312282506 front bump stop 31332282508 rear 33522282507, rear mount disc (CSL specific) 33532282503; bumper stop 33532282509
- different rear lower arm - aluminium with spherical joint 33322283074
- different front king pin (hub) for wider front track 31212282855; 31212282856
- larger front sway bar (hollow) 30.8mm 31352282655
- larger rear sway bar 22.5mm 33552282681
- larger front brakes (345mm) 34112282445; 34112282446 brake carrier 34112282619
- larger rear brake caliper piston 34212282857; 34212282858 (same as M3 CS)
- Pilot sport Cup Tyres 85452536738; 85452536740
- Lighter rear glass 51317895441

- Recaro SPG Type front seats 52100031830; 52100031831; rails 52107895957; 52107895958
- Lighter rear seats (4 seater rather than 5) 52207896809; 52207896800 rear console 52207896297
- Lightweight through load facility 52207896929; 52207896930; 52207896807; 52207896808
- Paper/Honey combe boot floor COVER (yes the infamous cardboard floor) 51477895990
- Carbon door cards and rear panel 51417895581; 51417895582; 51437895579; 51437895580 Door handles 51417896919; 51417896920
- carbon centre console 51167896359
- Alcantara steering wheel 32342282502
- Alcantara hand brake lever 34412282662
- 4 rather than 6(or 8 if equiped) airbags
- NO INTERIOR SOUND DEADENING
- No bonnet heat shield (same aluminium bonnet as M3)
- Optional Radio and aircon
- Lighter battery (same as the Mini Cooper S battery) 61218377139

Microfilter housing, bottom part 64 31 7 895 937 1.050 kg
Microfilter housing 64 31 7 895 939 1.630 kg

12517833366 - Wiring harness, engine grbx. module (1.83kg) // Normal M3 with SMG 1.87kg
25162282560 - shift knob alcantara
31332282508 - bumpstop
33532282503 - rear damper adapter
51477896369 - floor covering front
51477896370 - floor covering rear
61116975073 - main wiring harness (16.51kg) // Normal M3 18.93kg
61672695531 - Head lamp cleaning device container
61677892701 - Windshield cleaning container
64546928033 - Compression shroud




UPDATED WITH PART NUMBERS

[Craig]

Thanks so much, thats handy as theres a few things I might have just gone OEM M3 not realising the CSL was different such as sway bars and lower arms.

[phat///M3]

Just a thought, but if you use realoem.com you will be able to compare all the part numbers between the 2 cars.

[windy]

Just a thought, but if you use realoem.com you will be able to compare all the part numbers between the 2 cars.

That may take a while.... I'd reckon there's a fair few parts that make up an M3 or CSL, so comparing the two lists... :bigcry:

[phat///M3]

That may take a while.... I'd reckon there's a fair few parts that make up an M3 or CSL, so comparing the two lists... :bigcry:

Fair point, but I meant to compare the bits that he wants to buy as Im assuming he is not building a CSL from the ground up.

[derek]

Hi NZ_M3 were you born in the BMW factory, great to have people with that knowledge on the site, some really good posts you have had in the past as well:thumbs:

[NZ_M3]

Hi NZ_M3 were you born in the BMW factory, great to have people with that knowledge on the site, some really good posts you have had in the past as well:thumbs:

LOL ... Cheers .. I wish, I'd be able to score parts for bugger all then.

List updated with all part numbers:

Confirmed differences:

- Engine block (supposedly picked from the least flawed cast) – The blocks have the same part numbers as M3, Z4, but the full short block is a different part number 11007833675
- Engine head (exhaust valve and intake/exhaust cams - longer duration, same lift) – intake cam shaft 11317835041 exhaust cam shaft 11317835043 Exhaust Valve 11347833676 (30,5/5,95mm) – the valve springs are exactly the same
- Intake plenum (carbon airbox as we like to call it) Air Collector 11617833496 filter 13727838625 The other half of the carbon box: 11617833497 and control unit 11617833498 all the other ducting 11617833646; 11617833645; 11617833648; 13717896774 intake grill 51117895883
- Extractors/Headers (same as post 2005 M3s and Z4) 11627833500; 11627833643
- Cat converter (200 cell) 18307833673
- X pipe, resonators (thinner material - slightly lighter) 18107833503
- Rear muffler - slightly lighter 18107833504
- Different ECU - 25% more capacity 12147837328; 12147834982
- Different SMG control unit program 23607837731
- Pseudo Alpha N engine management (delete of MAF, but still runs a MAP sensor, and air temp sensor 13621739510- debate as to whether this is just for idle control however) MAP sensor part number 13627833561
- Different traction control system with M track mode on steering wheel (much like the DCT mode in new E9X series)
-Different ABS control program
- Shorter steering ratio 14.5:1 (compared with 15.4:1 on M3) 32132282647 (same steering rack as the M3 CS)

-Front bumper (carbon fiber with incorporate bumper support) silver grey 51117896820 Sapphire Black 51117895950
- Roof (carbon fiber) 41007895382;
- Rear diffuser (carbon fiber) - the bumper is the same as M3 so is the carrier – silver grey 51127896832 Sapphire Black 51127895985
- Boot lid (Moulded sheet plastic - it's not fiberglass people, it's much harder and more rigid) 41007895884
- Rolled rear fenders to accommodate wider rear rims. Bare Full Body Skeleton for CSL 41007895934 (part numbers for the rear fenders are the same as M3, but the CSL comes from the factory with ROLLED rear fenders)
- Different wheels (NOT magnesium, cast aluminium) made by BBS 36112282650; 36112282999
- Suspension and spring (sachs, shorter spring and different damper and rebound rates) fronts 31312282505; 31312282506 front bump stop 31332282508 rear 33522282507, rear mount disc (CSL specific) 33532282503; bumper stop 33532282509
- different rear lower arm - aluminium with spherical joint 33322283074
- different front king pin (hub) for wider front track 31212282855; 31212282856
- larger front sway bar (hollow) 30.8mm 31352282655
- larger rear sway bar 22.5mm 33552282681
- larger front brakes (345mm) 34112282445; 34112282446 brake carrier 34112282619
- larger rear brake caliper piston 34212282857; 34212282858 (same as M3 CS)
- Pilot sport Cup Tyres 85452536738; 85452536740
- Lighter rear glass 51317895441

- Recaro SPG Type front seats 52100031830; 52100031831; rails 52107895957; 52107895958
- Lighter rear seats (4 seater rather than 5) 52207896809; 52207896800 rear console 52207896297
- Lightweight through load facility 52207896929; 52207896930; 52207896807; 52207896808
- Paper/Honey combe boot floor COVER (yes the infamous cardboard floor) 51477895990
- Carbon door cards and rear panel 51417895581; 51417895582; 51437895579; 51437895580 Door handles 51417896919; 51417896920
- carbon centre console 51167896359
- Alcantara steering wheel 32342282502
- Alcantara hand brake lever 34412282662
- 4 rather than 6(or 8 if equiped) airbags
- NO INTERIOR SOUND DEADENING
- No bonnet heat shield (same aluminium bonnet as M3)
- Optional Radio and aircon
- Lighter battery (same as the Mini Cooper S battery) 61218377139


Unconfirmed differences:
- less under carriage undercoating
- extra welding points to chassis

[glendog74]

List updated with all part numbers:

Blimey! You really are a mine of information! Very useful indeed.

Dare i say you need to get out more, however... :hahaha:

[Craig]

Thanks so much, I've still got many idea's running through my head about what to do with the car. I'm thinking breaking it for bits might be the best idea, cut my losses then try and find another CSL or maybe dedicate an e36 for track use.

Orrrrrr.... CSL engines E30 with SMG!! - Must stop putting idea's into my own head.

[_Nathan_]

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