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NJ's CSL's
Chris,
Nick Johnson is a genuine csl enthusiast who happens to deal in them.
He generally stocks 3 to 5 examples so just going over to see the number of csl's in one place is almost unique in the UK.
His test drives are spot on as he lives in oxfordshire which has an abundance of leafy A roads to tear up. You do however pay a premium for nick's cars as he has to make a living.
Nonetheless i bought a 10K 04 SG from him in 2007 and the whole experience was most pleasant.
As other forum members have stated on this thread buying from a forum member can give you a "genuine history" to the car.
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Originally posted by E46ACS View PostI disagree. Most dealers don't know very much at all (if anything) about the CSL now. Buying private you get to speak to the current owner, and get a feel for how they have treated the car, how it has been cared for etc. You pay a premium for buying form a dealer without getting that background. A BMW Warranty is key, which you can add to the car now anyway.Originally posted by Chris View PostDo you mean you can extend the warranty if it's still got one, or you can get one put on even if it hasn't?Originally posted by DazBlackCSL View PostYep you can now add a BM warranty on if you buy one without it:thumbs:
The service history has to be spot on, including the running in service. They will sell you one without checking the BMWSH, but as soon as you come to make a claim it will get chucked out. I nearly founfd this out the hard way, I nearly brought a car that even though it had done hardly any miles in a three year period, had missing the service every two year rule and BMW wouldnt touch it... this cut alot of cars out when I was looking, its incredible the amount of owners who missed the crucial running in sevice, one car I viewed didnt have it done till 3500 miles or so...:banghead:
yeah, course he is :whistle: He trades cars he has brought in cheaply and knows nothing about from his house for a profit, no proper premises or backup. And I guarantee he will describe all of his cars as little or no track miles......:whistle:Originally posted by cslsuperfan View PostChris,
Nick Johnson is a genuine csl enthusiast who happens to deal in them.
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not at all mate. You said he was a CSL enthusiast, I say he is a dodgy car dealer pretending to be a CSL enthusiast. The truth probably lies somewhere in between.SeemplesOriginally posted by cslsuperfan View PostHazy,
You're quoting me out of context.
NJ is a csl enthusiast.Unless you count owning your own csl and doing regular nurburgring trips as being otherwise.
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I saw three cars at his place before buying mine elsewhere. One was a little tired but the other two I saw were fine. He does have decent cars in and it's a bit of a gerneralisation to say he's a dodgy dealer and most of his cars are munters. Whatever anyone says, it's great to see so many cars in one place so prospective purchasers can learn a bit more and get a feel for the cars before purchase.
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Any thoughts on putting a potential car into BMW for them to give it the once over? Or is the CSL a bit to specialist for your average BMW service department?
A mate did this with a GT3 he was buying privately a couple of weeks ago and Porsche did their 111 point check and gave him a written report afterwards. (It was tip-top in case you're wondering :hahaha
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Originally posted by Chris View PostAny thoughts on putting a potential car into BMW for them to give it the once over? Or is the CSL a bit to specialist for your average BMW service department?
A mate did this with a GT3 he was buying privately a couple of weeks ago and Porsche did their 111 point check and gave him a written report afterwards. (It was tip-top in case you're wondering :hahaha
It's all about the warranty. Different issues to consider between BMW and Porsche.
CSL - Does the CSL have the BMW Comprehensive warranty? If yes, then job done. BMW have been good at honouring their warranty, even on modified CSLs. No warranty? Buyer beware, and it's not an inconsiderable cost to you if you wanted to get a warranty.
GT3 - you need to do the 111point check to see if the car is elligible to be covered by Porsche's warranty - assuming you want to buy the warranty (if you play the wrong type of music in the car, Porsche may not honour the warranty). The 111pt check is a money collecting exercise... Porsche OPCs are not really knowledgeable enough about 996GT3s to really inform you as to the condition of the car (good/bad) unless they can sell you a policy. If you don't plan on getting the warranty, then an indie is the best way forward for GT3s.
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