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    #31
    Originally posted by englebert View Post
    The CSL was already heading in the wrong direction though, it is hardly a deft tool on track.
    When a CSL was at least 150kg's lighter than a std M3 that was hardly heading in the wrong direction.

    Saying it's hardly a deft tool on track, surely that's all relative? A GT3 RS isn't deft either compared to a Caterham R500, which isn't either next to a Caparo or Radical SR8. But a CSL is fun on track and very nicely balanced. Isn't that all that matters?

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      #32
      Originally posted by shimmy View Post
      but its power to weight is better than CSL, E92 M3, M5, M6, 996 GT3, 996 GT3RS, 997 GT3, a :thumbsnone of which are over 300 bhp/tonne)

      If only they looked better:bigcry:

      umm the 997 GT3 RS is over 300bhp/tonne I believe,

      435bhp/450bhp (new one) 415bhp old one, 1375kg

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        #33
        We had the other thread with pics of it
        Who would imagine it's an original BMW car, with this ridiculous spoiler in the trunk ?
        I think they could do better with that.

        I do like that is has brakes (FINALLY) and I feel really sad that our CSLs have this single-piston jokes that Fuchsrohre loves.
        I do like that is has titanium exhaust.
        I's still heavy (a CSL is 100 kilos lighter than this and it has rear seats).
        The engine is HUGE (I guess soon we will see M3 coupe with 5 liter engine !!!).

        Despite that we don't know the exact differences that it has from the standard M3, I wanted to ask the following.
        How much would it cost to convert an M3 coupe to something similar ?

        I am happy with my CSL and I am planning to buy a second and a third one (2 greys, 1 black).

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          #34
          Being cynical I wonder if the displacement change is so the ALMS and FIA programs can run a bigger engine? They could've got 450bhp from the 4.0L easily enough.

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            #35
            The increase in capacity goes against the rumours of looking at smaller, forced induction, engines for the M engines - for emissions purposes.

            I see this as one last hurrah before they go down this route, and this will be the signature car to do it.

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              #36
              Sounds fantastic :thumbs: looks a lot better in White than Orange.
              £100k :banghead: that's ridiculously overpriced, still want one though :drool:


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                #37
                Hi,

                Not sure about this ?



                You would want more power or less weight to be
                in the CSL Ring lap times.

                Regards,

                The Gorilla.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
                  Hi,

                  Not sure about this ?



                  You would want more power or less weight to be
                  in the CSL Ring lap times.

                  Regards,

                  The Gorilla.

                  Reading between the lines of the PH article, they rightfully give full respect to our M3 CSLs :supz: who's Ring times they haven't as yet beaten. I hope it stays that way :whistle:

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by amar7274 View Post
                    Sounds fantastic :thumbs: looks a lot better in White than Orange.
                    £100k :banghead: that's ridiculously overpriced, still want one though :drool:


                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPyLZj6HuLU

                    It does sound great :thumbs: but then so did my 928 at a fraction of the cost :supz: £100 000 is just way too much, almost double of a regular E92 M3, which BMW struggle to shift as it is. Might end up being rarer then M3 CSL though :hahaha:
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                      #40
                      Love it, and even more so love the fact it is over £100k.

                      The owners who were considering purchasing an E46 CSL are not in the same target range as those that would consider 100k on a second car so hopefully won't effect all our residuals too much!

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by SIEN View Post
                        Love it, and even more so love the fact it is over £100k.

                        The owners who were considering purchasing an E46 CSL are not in the same target range as those that would consider 100k on a second car so hopefully won't effect all our residuals too much!
                        Great observation :thumbs: I feel much better now but still I wouldn't buy one even if I had £100K to spank on a NEW toy, which I don't, before U lot ask :blalalala:

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                          #42
                          Interesting looking suspension set-up - looks very very similar to my KW Clubsport kit fitted to my car - even down to the yellow springs! :whistle:



                          Wheels look familiar too... :hahaha:



                          Love the cage - you could still get a few bags in there too :thumbs:

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
                            Hi,

                            Not sure about this ?

                            www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=20933

                            You would want more power or less weight to be
                            in the CSL Ring lap times.

                            Regards,

                            The Gorilla.
                            I think BMW has already indicated sub 7:40s for this thing - so definitely quicker than the CSL.

                            Also I do think it's quite an achievement - they've actually taken out more weight on this thing (about 200kg vs the E92 M3) compared to the weight lost on the CSL to the E46 M3.

                            Love this thing!!

                            For once I think BMW's finally done the thing that everyone's been wanting them to do:
                            - proper brakes (fixed caliper monoblocks)
                            - fully adjustable suspensions (height, damper and rebound)
                            - full aero (personally opinion whether it's ugly or not)
                            - Titanium muffler
                            - roll bar (ala GT3 clubsport pack)
                            - fire extinguisher (for snob value)
                            - proper bucket seats and harness (ala GT3 clubsport)

                            It has all the right boxes ticked, yet the enthusiasts still complains - come on .. this is more of a club racer than the CSL ever was ... now imagine if only the CSL had came out without those things!! Wohooo

                            Originally posted by glendog74 View Post
                            Interesting looking suspension set-up - looks very very similar to my KW Clubsport kit fitted to my car - even down to the yellow springs! :whistle:


                            Wouldn't surprise me if it indeed was the KW clubsport kit or a modification of it. The specs sounds about the same.

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                              #44
                              Hot M3 £100kish

                              Legendary 360 Challenge Stradale £85 to £90k

                              No contest IMO no way on gods earth will it be £75k better than the awesome CSL, let alone a Strad:thumbs:

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Hazy View Post
                                Hot M3 £100kish

                                Legendary 360 Challenge Stradale £85 to £90k

                                No contest IMO no way on gods earth will it be £75k better than the awesome CSL, let alone a Strad:thumbs:
                                +1


                                Let's clarify...

                                M3 GTS = 3 x CSL ?

                                er, no.

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