M3 gts

[mattCSLnut]

Uhhhhhhh yeah :drool: :drool: :drool: Sign me up

now THIS you would pay £100k for

[shimmy]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

I don't know where you get the 100,000 k price tag from

The BMW M3 GTS will be made-to-order and the price is expected to be EUR 115,000.- for delivery in Germany, including 19% VAT. (approx. £100,000 at today’s exchange rate,

ii think you answered your own question there

my guess is that it will be very limited numbers, maybe LHD only as i think it is just for racing justification

Thye might just sneak it under £100k but with the va bback to 17.5% maybe not

[glendog74]

[QUOTE=alexk;n386931]

now that is nice ...

Reckon another 2/3 or more models in the CSL may appear by then ours would be a proper old school legend .. and I will be as bald as a coot :hahaha:

It is nice - LOVE THOSE RED WHEELS :smt047 :smt047

BTW Dazza - it's pronounced 'old skool' and you are already bald as a coot :whistle: :smt044 :smt044

Thank you please :clown:

[NZ_M3]

if you remember the CSL was universally slated when it came out and it was massively overpriced and as such prices dropped 35% in the first 18 months, I don't see anything different with the GTS, once they are cheap enough everyone will fall in love with them as they did with the CSL.

Time will tell Nathan as you've pointed out.

I don't believe this car was ever intended to be a CSL.

Yes the CSL is special - but a lot of the 'positives' about it only came about a couple of years after people realised and appreciated it for what it really is (some of it helped no doubt by the more civilised E9X M3).

people said the same about the CSL, £20k more than an M3, it isn't even any faster, put those tyres on a normal M3 and you are 95% of the way there, there is nothing special about it etc etc.

Wait until there is some more information on how they've saved weight and what else has been done to it. Of course you could make a normal M3 faster for less money, same was true with the CSL too, the devil will be in the detail...

PS. Anyone know if the 7:40 time round the ring was with the tyres it has in the pictures? If it did that time on them then I'm amazed!

That time was on the prototype apparently.

200kg isn't that easy to save - so I suspect there's probably more to it.

Also there's a mention in the article about the rear axel mount - appears to be different to the standard car.

No doubt BMW's using this as a plateform for their GT4 racing program - heck this to me makes it even more special - at least this car has some 'racing' lineage unlike the CSL which is basically a technological show pony (don't get me wrong I love the CSL for what it is, but it is not in the same league as a factory produced club racer) - If the CSL was the forefather of modern BMW factory specials (not counting the E30 M3 Sport Evolution), then the M3 GTS is simply the bastard child it had with a racecar :hahaha:

i think that is what BMW thought as well.

TonyR is taking his E92 road car and my guess he will get a better and faster car than the GTS spending less than £20k

You aren't comparing apples with apples - we can go on about modified cars and I too can say for way less money you might as well supercharge a 2001 E46 M3 and it'd run rings around a lot of things .... with all due respect, I do think some of you are missing the point of this car ...

This is probably in similar league as the E46 M3 GTR road version that was never really meant to be ... overpriced, built for homologation ... never sold (well not beyong 2 digits) - I am sure you'd all go gaga if you saw one on the road today ... I am sure this GTS will be in the same league some what.

[shimmy]

You aren't comparing apples with apples - we can go on about modified cars and I too can say for way less money you might as well supercharge a 2001 E46 M3 and it'd run rings around a lot of things .... with all due respect, I do think some of you are missing the point of this car ...

This is probably in similar league as the E46 M3 GTR road version that was never really meant to be ... overpriced, built for homologation ... never sold (well not beyong 2 digits) - I am sure you'd all go gaga if you saw one on the road today ... I am sure this GTS will be in the same league some what.

dont get me wrong, i am sure it will be rare and a collectors car for sure

i am sure i will lust after one especially a 302bhp/tonne

but it doesnt look like £100k road car to me

[glendog74]

but it doesnt look like £100k road car to me

That's because it isn't meant to look like one...

[Mark CSL]

I seen this GTS yesterday :whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

Chav-Central :smt078

I seen this GTS yesterday :whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

That spoiler is very similar !!!

[DazBlackCSL]

It is nice - LOVE THOSE RED WHEELS :smt047 :smt047

BTW Dazza - it's pronounced 'old skool' and you are already bald as a coot :whistle: :smt044 :smt044

Thank you please :clown:

Its just the way my hair is cut :whistle:

[AlexGTT]

Its just the way my hair is cut :whistle:

:smt056 :wink: :hahaha:

[digi]

Nathan,

There goes the 'competitor'. Check this rear wing.




The CSL was the first 'normal' vehicle that had a carbon roof, carbon interior, carbon bumper, carbon intake.
It had many differences over the standard M3.
It was well-thought and engineered to make a difference.
The CSL was a pioneer in extreme 'normal' cars, that's why the press attacked it.

Did we see the GTS in any major car-show ? NO
Why ? Isn't it obvious that they were in a rush ?
It doesn't even have a different front bumper.

I know that many people will love it (maybe they will sell 50 of these) and track it.
But we are forgetting that we are in 2009 and not 2002.

Back in 2002 there were no extreme 'normal' cars like the CSL.
Competition (Mercedes black series, Audi R8, Nissan GTR) has lifted the baseline.
There are cars today like the Renault R26R (I might have the code wrong) which is a track weapon.
Was there any car with removed sound insulation, AC, radio etc etc ?
And where was BMW today ? NOWHERE.
After so much pressure, they offered as an add-on brembo brakes for 1 and 3 series (for the small engines).
Now they remembered that they can put brembo brakes in M models !!!
We consider this as extreme, when an alfa romeo mito has brembo brakes !!!

I tend to agree with your comments.

Seemed like a rush job. Although it may go like stink, from a product packaging stand-point from the official manufacturer it looks like a tuner car. Even ACS would hv done more to differentiate it.


Just look at the ACS CLSII, now thats a piece of work.

[shimmy]

I seen this GTS yesterday :whistle:

That looks like it has been set up especially for Daytona!!!!

[deleted_user_0_csl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7wh2FixhXs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCzDOpVasHM

[jibm]

i'd want a bigger bulge for 100k