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Originally posted by glendog74 View PostI gotta agree with that Shane.
My car will eventually be a track only slag - it's over half way there already. It's not like you don't have other normal cars you can use instead!
I half agree with you guys, but I like tinkering.
I wont lose out financially doing what I'm doing so its a free experiment. And I love working on the m3/csl. Suspension swap complete can be done in no time at all now.
We will see what she is like on track when complete, meet up on track and see if it can keep up:thumbs:
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Originally posted by DuncanR View PostLawsy... am I missing something here, why not buy Steves shell, Craigs parts and others and hey presto ! CSL track car !
I have my mind set now on converting a normal m3 to track/race-ish spec, That would be an option for someone to make a few £ notes.
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Lawsy, ya doing the right thing mate, I started to buy stuff to convert my CSL to a track car, but the car was just too good to do it to (as you know, you brought the unused brakes!!)
I dinked my M3 at Oulton last month, how gutted would I have been if it had been the CSL?? Or worse..the Strad!!!:bigcry:
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Originally posted by _Nathan_ View PostIf you insure them I really don't see the difference.
I fell off at Donny and the gravel ripped off the splitter, the lower half of the front bumper and the rear bumper, the cost to fix is identical for M3 or CSL?
I was annoyed but that wouldn't have changed regardless of the car.
Yes and when you get your bumper peppered in stone chips on the csl, it will get painted, then some more stone chips, then painted again, then more then painted again, the m3 will be left with the battle scars, no cost to me.
If you get a big ding in door, you repair it, to high standard, and pay the excess, ill just push out dent in the m3 and stick a sticker over it,
CSL bumper is carbon fibre and carbon fibre splitters, a lot more to cost to repair or change.
Most track day insurance excess is very high, If you scraped your csl splitters off on a curb, and rip the bumper= big claim, if i scrape my bumper Ill leave it.
One mans logic is another mans idea of craziness.
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You are assuming that for some reason a CSL isn't allowed to get stone chips in the same way an M3 is?
Not running standard bumper, that was sold
All of your examples are just a case of personal standards, an M3 door is the same as a CSL door, if you choose to bodge a repair and leave it looking pikey then it is the same on either car.
In both cases insurance is only there for a big one, no point claiming for cosmetic stuff.
Regardless of the base car you end up with something similar in cost to repair IMO, CSL just has a better engine, lighter roof, lighter boot lid, lighter loom, less horrible tar to worry about, faster steering rack, better ABS calibration etc etc All of which can be copied but then the difference in cost once you've sold the CSL bits becomes negligible.
Not having a go at you personally I just sometimes don't get the way the CSL is seen as something so special and not to be touched on here yet a normal M3 isn't, they are both just cars!
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Think your missing the point here mate. Lawsy is building a track car, he WAS converting a nice road car and keeping the road stuff. To retain the value of his CSL in the event of the worse happening would mean a PROPER repair with new parts at a top notch body shop. To repair the same damage on a track car , use second hand parts, cable ties where expensive plastic brackets have snapped, and a cheap spray job so it looks reasonable. For example....how much to repair this track dink:whistle:, ballpark??Originally posted by _Nathan_ View PostYou are assuming that for some reason a CSL isn't allowed to get stone chips in the same way an M3 is?
Not running standard bumper, that was sold
All of your examples are just a case of personal standards, an M3 door is the same as a CSL door, if you choose to bodge a repair and leave it looking pikey then it is the same on either car.
In both cases insurance is only there for a big one, no point claiming for cosmetic stuff.
Regardless of the base car you end up with something similar in cost to repair IMO, CSL just has a better engine, lighter roof, lighter boot lid, lighter loom, less horrible tar to worry about, faster steering rack, better ABS calibration etc etc All of which can be copied but then the difference in cost once you've sold the CSL bits becomes negligible.
Not having a go at you personally I just sometimes don't get the way the CSL is seen as something so special and not to be touched on here yet a normal M3 isn't, they are both just cars!
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