Clutch Slur

[Bounce]

getting the clutch retaught takes about 1/2 hour and can get it feeling like new

BUT imho it does not always sort it permantly and often if for soem reason the compensator is not working correctly the clutch problem wil return. My first clutch was slipping on or off for 10k miles even though i tried to sort it with the reprogramming - but it always came back

Ive got to go through all this bollocks on friday at Murketts,they have to try this before they can give you a new clutch,athough Andy Pressland says it does actually stop the slur in a few cars,and he would know.says they have well over 50 CSLs on there books now.

[mpower!]

Hi,

I was informed that 5/6 hard Launch Control
Starts, would just about eat a new SMG clutch?

Can anybody confirm or dispel this.


Regards,

The Gorilla.

I don't think that's true mate as a guy on the cutters forum reckons he's done it about 30 times and his cars still on the same clutch and he reckons it's fine!

[Hazy]

If you drive really hard, you can eat a
355 F1 clutch in about 2/3k miles and
a 360 F1 clutch in about 5/6k miles.

I think the 355 has a update/upgrade which
improves it slightly.

Thats without launch control etc.

Thats bollox mate, sorry. F1 clutches in Ferraris are pretty durable if set up correctly and used correctly. I'm yet to have a clutch in any of my F1 Ferraris (on my fourth) probably done 50000 miles between the four of them, fair bit of trackwork too

[NZ_M3]

I don't think that's true mate as a guy on the cutters forum reckons he's done it about 30 times and his cars still on the same clutch and he reckons it's fine!

Doubt it'd eat clutches as there's virtually no slip when it engages (I've only ever done it once in my car and it scared the crap out of me and vowed to never use it again - I can imagine the stress it places on the rest of the car) - I'd say it'll rip the rear subframe out of the car before it burn up a clutch!!

[Mark CSL]

Ok People there is a problem that bmw are not going to sort now :bigcry:

If you tell BMW to take the box out for clutch slipping and you are willing to pay for it as long as the clutch is worn below the limit thats fine.

BUT and its a big BUT if it is within spec i want warranty or good will to pay.

Thats how to tell bmw you want the clutch sorted as all the CSLs i have seen
and thats a few with some at 54,000 miles and the clutch was fine but flywheel had burn marks on it warranty picked up the tab :thumbs:

Cheers Mark CSL

[The Gorilla]

Hi

Hazy- F1 Clutch and sofware in a 355 is
about as crude as it gets, about twice as
slow as SMG 11.

Well known in the Ferrari world to gobble up clutches.

F1 Clutch in my first 360 F1 was gone in around
5500 miles from new.

Clutch in my second 360 F1, was gone in just
over 6,000 miles.

Third 360 was a Manual, clutch did 15,000 miles
plus and car was then sold.

Mates 360 F1 purchased with 5000 miles,
sold to HR Owen with 12,300 miles, at agreed
price, when arriving to deliver for payment
Diagnostic test shows clutch is 93 % worn.

Records show that it was its second clutch.

Its just like the 360 front wishbone bushes that always
seem to fail after about 4/5000 miles of hard use, and
you had to have complete arms both sides at
750.00 aside + Labour as Ferrari would not sell just the
bush/bearing, they have now changed their policy on
this.

2k for front wishbone bushes after 4/5k miles with a
clutch thrown in is not exactly what you expect.

On BMW M3 SMG 11 Launch control, there is
an article somewhere that confirms that with
10 launch starts then the clutch can be something
like 75/80 worn, it also mentions that 'slack'
or 'play' can result in the drivetrain as
a result of these lauanches etc.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[glendog74]

Have never tried it on mine and i see it as rather gimmicky tbh. Why fit something to a car that will wear expensive clutches prematurely that only brings questionable/minimal benefit? Silly BMW :banghead: :hahaha:

[weedavey]

Have never tried it on mine and i see it as rather gimmicky tbh. Why fit something to a car that will wear expensive clutches prematurely that only brings questionable/minimal benefit? Silly BMW :banghead: :hahaha:

Me niether and the more I read about its effects the less i want to....

on the flip side i remember it did give the csl in that jap driver race video a really good start, you know the one with the m5, lambo, porsche etc.

[mpower!]

after reading your posts on here about getting rid of clutch slur by giving your cars a pasting!

does that genuinley work i went out today and gave it a try and it seems slightly better, but i dont know if its pshycological or not?

i need to get this straightened out before tues 23rd as on that day im supposed to be booking it in after a test with a bmw technician for a new clutch and flywheel!!!!:banghead:

[mickaldo]

after reading your posts on here about getting rid of clutch slur by giving your cars a pasting!

does that genuinley work i went out today and gave it a try and it seems slightly better, but i dont know if its pshycological or not?

i need to get this straightened out before tues 23rd as on that day im supposed to be booking it in after a test with a bmw technician for a new clutch and flywheel!!!!:banghead:

seems to work for a while then goes back to sluring did in my case after half a day at oulton park.

[mpower!]

seems to work for a while then goes back to sluring did in my case after half a day at oulton park.

ok mate bollox im just gunna go in and pay for it!:bigcry:

then no more launch controls after that i only got to do it once!:smokin:

[SpineOnABap]

ok mate bollox im just gunna go in and pay for it!:bigcry:

then no more launch controls after that i only got to do it once!:smokin:

Unless you're getting constant clutch-slip (eg, from standstill) then I wouldn't bother paying for it to be replaced! It'll only start again after a while....

[shimmy]

Elliot

what happened to your trials in the end

did you get to a conclusion?

[SpineOnABap]

Elliot

what happened to your trials in the end

did you get to a conclusion?

Nah I just lost interest :hahaha: It's in on tuesday for another fault so I'll get them to reteach it while it's in.

[Hazy]

Hi

Hazy- F1 Clutch and sofware in a 355 is
about as crude as it gets, about twice as
slow as SMG 11.

Well known in the Ferrari world to gobble up clutches.

F1 Clutch in my first 360 F1 was gone in around
5500 miles from new.

Clutch in my second 360 F1, was gone in just
over 6,000 miles.

Third 360 was a Manual, clutch did 15,000 miles
plus and car was then sold.

Mates 360 F1 purchased with 5000 miles,
sold to HR Owen with 12,300 miles, at agreed
price, when arriving to deliver for payment
Diagnostic test shows clutch is 93 % worn.

Records show that it was its second clutch.

Its just like the 360 front wishbone bushes that always
seem to fail after about 4/5000 miles of hard use, and
you had to have complete arms both sides at
750.00 aside + Labour as Ferrari would not sell just the
bush/bearing, they have now changed their policy on
this.

2k for front wishbone bushes after 4/5k miles with a
clutch thrown in is not exactly what you expect.

On BMW M3 SMG 11 Launch control, there is
an article somewhere that confirms that with
10 launch starts then the clutch can be something
like 75/80 worn, it also mentions that 'slack'
or 'play' can result in the drivetrain as
a result of these lauanches etc.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

18 months 12000 miles in my 355F1, didnt have a clutch, F1 was great too but NOT it "sport" mode
12 months 10000 miles in my 360F1, no clutch, and the previous owners were mates of mine, no clutches
8 months 7000 miles 360 spider F1, no clutch, my best mate still owns the car its on 27000, no clutch (from new)
3 years, 18500 miles 360 Strad, no clutch from new
Six mates who all have Strads (we all brought them within 3 months:hahaha mileages vary, not one clutch between us.

its all down to the driver mate, I have a truck driver who does a clutch every 6-9 months, other driver in the same truck is still on the original clutch.