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    M3 CSL to 328i Sport (New Steed)

    Pah, sod all these 'M3 to CSL' threads REAL* men down grade and go all minimaltec, no flappy paddle gearboxes, no fancy carbon fibrey bits what you want is one of these;







    1998 R-reg 328i Sport, it has the good engine (no nikasil issues) however the downside to this is its lacking an LSD. Couldn't turn it down though, 166,000 miles did put me off but then I saw the amont of service history and drove the car, it felt tighter than several sub-40k cars I've owned.

    To put it in perspective, the bad points, which the previous owner told me about are; a bit of rust coming through drivers arch, and a few stone chips... that is all on a 12 year old car, not even any interior wear. The first aid kit is still in its plastic wrapper, the tool kit is complete, warning triangle is there, theres two BBS centre cap removal tools (standard + optional extra) plus an un-used BBS spare split rim in the boot with brand new original Michelin.

    I also got a set of e36 M3 saloon alloy complete with Hankook RS2's, an un-fitted DaveF induction kit and a few other bits and bob's. All for less than £2500!!!

    Plans are to turn it into my track car, however been using it as my daily so going to transform it slowly over the next few months. Once I've gone through all the basics checking its all sturdy, i'll probably start by fitting a 3.0 M3 limited slip diff, then poly bushing the car. After that, plans range from big brakes to a full cage all depending on how well I get on with the car I guess.

    * = Men who have spaffed £30k down the side of a barrier. :bigcry:

    #2
    Don't forget to mention the FREE Ring sticker :bigcry: Take it off, for better luck, before you venture out on the Nordschleife again :whistle:

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      #3
      'Ring sticker, Northloop sticker and a Mazda-on-Track!?! sticker have all been removed... not really a fan of stickers on cars.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Craig View Post
        'Ring sticker, Northloop sticker and a Mazda-on-Track!?! sticker have all been removed... not really a fan of stickers on cars.
        :thumbs: :beer:

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          #5
          Originally posted by Craig
          * = Men who have spaffed £30k down the side of a barrier. :bigcry:

          :hahaha: Love your self critique. Nice motor, sounds like the elusive "unmolested example" obtained. Well done.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Craig View Post
            'Ring sticker, Northloop sticker and a Mazda-on-Track!?! sticker have all been removed... not really a fan of stickers on cars.
            Apart from a www.cslregister.com sticker no? Or maybe a www.328isportregister.com sticker??? :hahaha:

            Sorry mate, alot of car for the money mate, well done. Good find. All this for the price of a new CSL Bumper, mental!

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              #7
              Actually, I lie I don't mind subtle well placed stickers, was thinking about asking Mark for some CSL Register ones so that I can look cool, haha.

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                #8
                Nice car Craig

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                  #9
                  Hi,

                  Craig- E36 Cross Brace underneath first,
                  then Superflex Poly [Race version],
                  fit the harder sprod RTAB's, front top
                  steel one piece strut brace, and for
                  around 350/400 beer tokens you
                  will sharpen it up, and take some
                  of the flex out of it.

                  Keep your eyes peeled for a set of
                  850 4 POT Alloy Brembo's, usually around
                  200 ish, which will
                  run a E46 M3 front disc.

                  Rears, Z3M Coupe Calipers /discs, which will give you
                  300mmx20mm vented rear disc and retain the
                  handbrake.

                  This set up will stop a E36 300 bhp + evo
                  on a sixpence, and should give change from
                  1k.

                  Just some ideas for the new red beast.

                  Regards,

                  The Gorilla.

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                    #10
                    Just what I wanted to hear, theres so much stuff about 330ci brakes, but you loose the handbrake, its nice to hear tha above as the cross brace is already on order. I was about to get bushes but didn't know what to go for.

                    Regarding the 850 callipers, how do they mount, do you get brackets made up?

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                      #11
                      Hi,

                      Craig- use Super Flex much better
                      product than the Powerflex stuff.

                      The guys at Superflex understand
                      hardness and sprod ratings much
                      better.

                      Get the front rear wishbone adjustable
                      ones with S/S insert, and the rear
                      ones, plus the RTAB's or if you want
                      to change rear camber and toe
                      K-mac do a bolt in eccentric bolt,
                      or you can use the E39 M5 eccentric
                      bolts but will have to have the
                      bolt tabs welded on to the rear
                      sub frame.

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                      The 850 Brembo Calipers come in
                      2 versions, lug, which I beleive was
                      also fitted to some e32 740/750 as
                      an optional upgrade, and the radial mount.

                      Try and get the Radial ones, and the
                      you can either have some alloy mounting
                      brackets made, BG Developments or
                      Hi Spec will make them, or its quite
                      easy to buy some 6063 alloy and make
                      your own.

                      Some of the lug ones bolt straight on but
                      not all.

                      330 brakes are just able to run larger discs
                      and they will cost almost as much S/H
                      as the Brembo set up.

                      On the LSD, the E36 3.0 M3 in the States
                      ran a 3.91 LSD which will bolt straight
                      in. It was because it was non S50 engine
                      and they wanted to keep acceleration
                      up to around 5.8 for 0-60.

                      There is also a 27mm e36 m3 front ARB
                      which with the Superflex ARB bushes would
                      alos improve turn in, I would leave the rear
                      as standard and just do the bushes.

                      Regards,

                      The Gorilla.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
                        Hi,

                        Keep your eyes peeled for a set of
                        850 4 POT Alloy Brembo's, usually around
                        200 ish, which will
                        run a E46 M3 front disc.

                        Regards,

                        The Gorilla.

                        Hey Gorilla.
                        U seem like the well of knowledge. :thumbs:
                        Is there anything from BREMBO for the CSLs O.E. front discs that just bolts on ??? :whistle:

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by mattCSLnut View Post
                          Is there anything from BREMBO for the CSLs O.E. front discs that just bolts on ??? :whistle:
                          Hah hah ! whats up Matt ? did you get pi$$ed off at me Saturday having a dig at you only doing 4~5 laps before having to cool you brakes off mate !!:hahaha: Get some BBK on there and enjoy more of your track day!!
                          Nice meeting up with you, apologies for my appearance and all the Pigeon blood on my hands !! from :smt070

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by DuncanR View Post
                            Hah hah ! whats up Matt ? did you get pi$$ed off at me Saturday having a dig at you only doing 4~5 laps before having to cool you brakes off mate !!:hahaha: Get some BBK on there and enjoy more of your track day!!
                            Nice meeting up with you, apologies for my appearance and all the Pigeon blood on my hands !! from :smt070

                            Yep, good to meet U too m8 and put a face to a name :thumbs: U bird killer Shame U didn't bring your CSL with Ya :whistle: No m8, not pissed off at all as the brakes were fine. Before U arrived I had a 20 minute non stop, flat out, Instructor laps and they were working great, without fade, if anything the brakes needed a lap to warm up :hahaha: (the pads however, as great as they are, are at the end of their life now) They were 30% worn when I bought the car in October and have since done two TDs and over 2000 miles. I've ordered another set of the same, Performance Friction "Z" rated TD pads front & rear, all for a grand total of £140 delivered :thumbs: That's what I call a bargain.



                            They are really superb, in conjunction with the braided houses and Racing Blue brake fluid. I'm just a little concern that as I build up speed & confidence in my CSL and as the ambient temperatures rise, I may need extra braking power come May/June time. I'm just thinking ahead and out loud about a simple solution that doesn't cost thousands £££ or require heavy modifications. I personally think the OE CSL discs can take the heat, however the OE callipers will start to complain, even with the PF pads, so a BREMBO four pot callipers, like the ones from the Porker 928 I think might do the job. :whistle: Over to Mr Gorilla

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                              #15
                              Hi,

                              The standard M3 CSL Disc are more than up
                              to the job, and at just 28mm thick you save
                              some weight as opposed PF, AP or Brembo at
                              32/35/36mm thick, about a kg a disc.

                              What you require is some 'Radial' Mount Calipers
                              either 4 pot or 6 pot that take a 28mm x 345/350
                              disc.

                              Porsche Brembos, 996,997 rears, BMW 850,
                              or something like a pair of Compbrake 6 pots
                              or Hi Spec 4-6 pots.







                              Brackets would be around 80-100 each so for
                              under a 7/800 you can have a 4 or 6 pot set up
                              running your standard CSL Discs.

                              I am surprised that nobody ever did just a
                              Radial caliper kit for the E46 M3/CSL as
                              by spacing a radial caliper off the mounting
                              brackets you could have coverd
                              both disc sizes on both models etc
                              and retained standard front discs.

                              As 70/75 % braking effeciency is front
                              bias, then std rears with s/s lines good
                              pads and a rear balance valve mounted
                              in the cockpit for wet days etc, would
                              give all the brakes you would ever need
                              for a Trackday car.

                              Regards,

                              The Gorilla.

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