What a result!

[DuncanR]

I recommend it, makes me feel 10 years younger (a teenager):smokin:

I woke up this morning and felt like a teenager.... couldnt find one !:hahaha:

[Dan_csl]

I've had a great coule of days hooning around the west country.

Was at Simpsons today and saw a couple if members cars there. Got some stuff sorted ready for the car to go into BMW to get the rear subframe fixed and possibly a new clutch! (again)

I love driving out in the country, did about 80 miles seeing client's in mine on Tuesday this week! Went right through, Dorset, Wiltshire and then into Somerset and back again! :smokin:

I didn't know your car has suffered the subframe failure mate!? :banghead:

[Curly]

I woke up this morning and felt like a teenager.... couldnt find one !:hahaha:

Dirty old git:whistle:

[mattCSLnut]

Had a good day today

picked up my bargain 4.10 diff from BMSport
picked up a front rim from Gromit in superb condition (he has two rears in A1 condition needing a home)
picked up my SS race back box from David Ch.

And then to top it all after being told Costco wouldn't sell me 265/35/18 Cups as they are not OEM for the car , my local tyre guy said he'd do them for £800 a set.:supz:

off to Simpsons in the morning and Bath in the afternoon/evening so honk if you see me

Hi Shimmy.
I've just bought a set of 4 Genuine BMW M3 18" 9J rears from your mate Mike in Essex to use as my Track wheels. They've been refurbed not too long ago in dark Anthracite and look V. COOL :thumbs:
My question is, what tyre size should I be considering for these... standard size of road tyres is 255/40/18 but they're not available in Track Day tyres sizes so my choice is either 255/35/18 or 265/35/18 (like the ones you're planing to get) Have U checked if fitting 9J 18" with 265/35/18 tyres poses any issues at the front :whistle: ... rubbing on the front wing on full lock ??? or getting too close to the suspension strut maybe ??? I'm running standard brake callipers, standard rebuild suspension and no spacers.

[shimmy]

Cups come in 265/35/18 like the ones i have ordered. You may find other sizes in Yokos, Toyo T888 and Dunloip Direzas to better wuit the 9J but 265 should be ok as it is within tollerance.

I am not sure of the offset on the rear 18 inch M3 rims but my guess is they are about et25.

I would have thought that you should be ok on the front. Should clear the dampers ok as rims is narrower than the CSL rim. Only slight chance that you may fould the arch liner and arch on the front but that will depend on actual offset and your suspension set up (esp camber)

[mattCSLnut]

Cups come in 265/35/18 like the ones i have ordered. You may find other sizes in Yokos, Toyo T888 and Dunloip Direzas to better wuit the 9J but 265 should be ok as it is within tollerance.

I am not sure of the offset on the rear 18 inch M3 rims but my guess is they are about et25.

I would have thought that you should be ok on the front. Should clear the dampers ok as rims is narrower than the CSL rim. Only slight chance that you may fould the arch liner and arch on the front but that will depend on actual offset and your suspension set up (esp camber)

The off set of the BMW M3 18" 9J rears that I have is ET26 and the tyres I'm considering are: TOYO R888 265/35/18 @ £912 all in delivered (not fitted)... TOYO R1R 265/35/18 @ £ 868 all in delivered (not fitted)... or Dunlop DZ03G 265/35/18 @ £1100 (auch!) all in delivered (not fitted). Yokohama A048 in the same size are a whopping £1488 !!! not fitted . To be honest none of these deals are as good a deal that you have with your local tyre place of £800 for the same size set of Cups. Just to double check with U, is that £800 inc. VAT delivery & fitting for 4 X Michelin Pilot CUP 265/35/18 s ? Same tyres as recommended for the M3 CSL, just one wheel size smaller ?
BTW, I found a pix of someone on here who run this set up with Dunlop DZ02Gs in 265/35/18, although I see from the pix this CSL has aftermarket suspension and probably runs RACE cambers + the obvious AP racing anchors, which seem to clear the 18" 9J rears OK :thumbs:

[shimmy]

The off set of the BMW M3 18" 9J rears that I have is ET26 and the tyres I'm considering are: TOYO R888 265/35/18 @ £912 all in delivered (not fitted)... TOYO R1R 265/35/18 @ £ 868 all in delivered (not fitted)... or Dunlop DZ03G 265/35/18 @ £1100 (auch!) all in delivered (not fitted). Yokohama A048 in the same size are a whopping £1488 !!! not fitted . To be honest none of these deals are as good a deal that you have with your local tyre place of £800 for the same size set of Cups. Just to double check with U, is that £800 inc. VAT delivery & fitting for 4 X Michelin Pilot CUP 265/35/18 s ? Same tyres as recommended for the M3 CSL, just one wheel size smaller ?
BTW, I found a pix of someone on here who run this set up with Dunlop DZ02Gs in 265/35/18, although I see from the pix this CSL has aftermarket suspension and probably runs RACE cambers + the obvious AP racing anchors, which seem to clear the 18" 9J rears OK :thumbs:

Matt

i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.

Nords and Curly ran the Dg02 and got good deal as the DG03 were coming out i think. I think they are a pretty good alternative to Cups. T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)



best thing to do is buy/borrow some old 18 inch 255 or 265 tyres and try them on your front and see if your suspension needs to be modded and by how much

[Dan_csl]

Matt

i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.

T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)

I was going to say the exact same thing to Matt, just be careful with the Toyo R888's, they don't have a very long operating window if you like and do 'go off' quite quickly with heavier cars!

I've heard of people getting at best 2/3 laps out of them before they are past their best!! :banghead:

[mattCSLnut]

Matt

i cant get any more 18 inch deals i am afraid. tried today but they can only do a few every so often for me.

Nords and Curly ran the Dg02 and got good deal as the DG03 were coming out i think. I think they are a pretty good alternative to Cups. T888 are good but maybe lack a bit of longevity when they get off (they go off quicker with our heavy cars). Try Pirelli PZero Corsa Race System (they look like the DG02s (see below)



best thing to do is buy/borrow some old 18 inch 255 or 265 tyres and try them on your front and see if your suspension needs to be modded and by how much

Shame about the 18" Cup deal being so Limited to once in the Blue moon Shim :whistle: I've always got on very well with Dunlops as a road tyre so I hope their TD tyres are even better, especially if I get a good deal on either the older DZ 02s or the replacement DZ03G. Yes I think it was NORDS who had those Dunlops in the pic I enclosed earlier. I've heard KUMOH V70 TD tyres are meant to be surprisingly good, despite happy shopper price tag of £181 all in, per each 265/35/18" :thumbs:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m12b0s670p1899

[mattCSLnut]

I was going to say the exact same thing to Matt, just be careful with the Toyo R888's, they don't have a very long operating window if you like and do 'go off' quite quickly with heavier cars!

I've heard of people getting at best 2/3 laps out of them before they are past their best!! :banghead:

Hey Dan...
Are U speaking about the TOYO R888 being less then perfect, from personal experience m8 ? :whistle:

[Dan_csl]

Hey Dan...
Are U speaking about the TOYO R888 being less then perfect, from personal experience m8 ? :whistle:

Near enough mate yes, I have very close personal friends who have extensive use of these tyres with heavier 4x4 car's and the tyre's don't tend to perform for long...

[mattCSLnut]

Near enough mate yes, I have very close personal friends who have extensive use of these tyres with heavier 4x4 car's and the tyre's don't tend to perform for long...

Maybe it's his driving style :hahaha: A good friend of mine has a Race prepared, only just road legal Porsche 928 GT, which is about the same weight as a CSL, on a set of 18" R888 and he swears by them. Over the last 12 months he's been to the Ring, number of times, done a few UK TDs including Bedford and the rears ( 295/30/18 ) are just starting to go :whistle:

[karbonkid]

I saw these 18s on PH yesterday and was going to take them but had second thoughts. I run R888s (245/ 265) and are a great fast road/ track tyre IMO. Paid £600 a set. Heat up quick but do seem to go off quick too though, but then I do need to compare them to the Cups which I will be testing shortly in the new season.

[glendog74]

It's pretty well documented both here and elsewhere that R888s aren't the ultimate track tyre for the M3 or CSL.

Michelin PSC are the most expensive but they are supposed to be the best and i go with majority opinion when it comes to choices like that for track days - i have certainly had good experience with PSC and justify the extra £££ over lesser tyres whether 19" or otherwise imho :whistle:

I also use Michelin PS2 as my road tyres for similar justification as they can also cope with some track abuse and are a safe bet when the track day is a wet one. :thumbs:

Tyres are one area that i want the best for my CSL... :smt055

[Nords]

Shame about the 18" Cup deal being so Limited to once in the Blue moon Shim :whistle: I've always got on very well with Dunlops as a road tyre so I hope their TD tyres are even better, especially if I get a good deal on either the older DZ 02s or the replacement DZ03G. Yes I think it was NORDS who had those Dunlops in the pic I enclosed earlier. I've heard KUMOH V70 TD tyres are meant to be surprisingly good, despite happy shopper price tag of £181 all in, per each 265/35/18" :thumbs:

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...m12b0s670p1899

It was indeed. Intrax suspension and APs alround meant that the DZ02 were excellent. Dropped the pressures to 25 psi so they rose to 33 psi hot giving no understeer and excellent stability under brakes (left them on least camber with the adj top mounts, so guessing -1.5 degrees?) They were rear M3 rims alround but Hazy has them now! Going with cups for the few trackdays I get to do!