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[outnumbered]

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

[shane@mbtech]

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

The Evo x standard does feel boring, the standard Csl feels much better
But putting coilovers on the x and good geo mdkes a huge difference, where as the Csl on coilovers and geo felt much the same but gripped better if you get where I'm coming from, the Csl out the box is a great great car, the x however needs more tweaks to feel as good. But once tweaked they are pretty good.

I was sorely tempted by an e90 but my x came up at the right price




What model x was it?

[need4speed]

What model x was it?

EVO X RS 360

[s.mac]

i've driven the palmer sport M3's at Bedford and they aren't a patch on the CSL , they dont come close

[AlexGTT]

Also, it wasn't on the correct rubber. Not a Cup in sight and that would make at least 2 secs round there. Considering it's standard fitment they really should test it on the right rubber.

For some reason Evo completely reject (and always have) the fitment of Cups on a CSL but love them on a GT3/RS? What's that all about?

[niall1]

Also, it wasn't on the correct rubber. Not a Cup in sight and that would make at least 2 secs round there. Considering it's standard fitment they really should test it on the right rubber.

For some reason Evo completely reject (and always have) the fitment of Cups on a CSL but love them on a GT3/RS? What's that all about?

Would than not warrent a barage of emails suggesting that they should try an 'original' car with cups? That would cut a second or two off the lap time..

[DuncanR]

EVO should be getting on here and availing themselves of all the correct information regards the CSL before attempting such a head to head again !! ..... wtf do they know ??:hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

Would than not warrent a barage of emails suggesting that they should try an 'original' car with cups? That would cut a second or two off the lap time..

The X rs is only 300bhp standard and they dont do a rs360 version officially.
They do an fq360, but the rs is an import.

JRM will have supplied the car as they remap the X rs's. They sell a 360 rs and also a 400rs.

[azrael]

The X rs is only 300bhp standard and they dont do a rs360 version officially.
They do an fq360, but the rs is an import.

JRM will have supplied the car as they remap the X rs's. They sell a 360 rs and also a 400rs.

Yep JRM Supplied the Car and powers up to 360 from 276 apparently

Test based on power to weight being similar

[shane@mbtech]

The 360 X rs by JRM only has standard brakes and standard suspension too,
Was the CSL on standard suspension and brakes too?

[weyzi]

i've driven the palmer sport M3's at Bedford and they aren't a patch on the CSL , they dont come close

agree i drove the m3 at palmer sport and not a patch on CSL

[AlexGTT]

The 360 X rs by JRM only has standard brakes and standard suspension too,
Was the CSL on standard suspension and brakes too?

Yep, all standard....................apart from no Cups.:whistle:

[shimmy]

Has a test at Bedford West Circuit of the CSL (a car from BMW's heritage collection) against a new Evo X, on the basis that they're "about the same price these days - £27K".

The CSL's ultimate lap time seems a bit disappointing at 1m27.8, which is 2s slower than they managed in an E90 M3. Usual complaints about the standard brakes. I was a bit surprised as I'd have thought the CSL should be pretty close to the E90 ?

The EVO was over 1s quicker, but they do concede that the CSL was more fun.

Just found this old thread, Evo CSL 1m 27.4 compared to my best time today of 1m 21.4 secs. I think the AP brakes make no difference as you oly do 2 fast laps so no issue of brake cooling, but I am guessing the suspension upgrade will help grip and braking.

[outnumbered]

That's in the same ballpark as Evo have for the F430 Scud or GT3RS... so either you are a driving god Shimmy, or the Evo guys are not as good as they make out ! :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Well you all know the answer to that question :119:


The are crap, obviously and most here would slaughter their poxy times