Real world difference between an M3 and a CSL...

[shimmy]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

again well put.

@titan no offence meant but have you ever driven a csl?

hes got one, and had an M3 before.

Im guessing he paid more than £10k difference between the two (they certainly are more thna £10k difference in price now:whistle

[funtime]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

again well put.

@titan no offence meant but have you ever driven a csl?

hes got one, and had an M3 before.

Im guessing he paid more than £10k difference between the two (they certainly are more thna £10k difference in price now:whistle

Beat me to it. With regard to the price difference between the two though, a late M3 with low miles will still fetch between 15-17k and CSL's (allbeit slightly leggy ones) can be had for 22k+ so the difference all depends on the examples in hand.

The price of CSL's vary less as they were only built for a year where as the E46 M3 was built from 2000-2006

Shimmy, did you get my pm?

[toofastforyou]

hes got one, and had an M3 before.

Im guessing he paid more than £10k difference between the two (they certainly are more thna £10k difference in price now:whistle

fair enough but he talks like hes never driven one or he doesnt know how to drive one. no offence meant titan

[shimmy]

Shimmy, did you get my pm?

not sure, got soooo many of the feckers today


ill check and get back to you

[funtime]

not sure, got soooo many of the feckers today


ill check and get back to you

ok, thanks :thumbs:

[monkeycsl]

stolen from another post but sums up your situation!!!!!
(this thing is just phenomenal, and if anyone on here is still in two minds about whether to take the CSL plunge, then all I can say is don't even risk taking it for a test drive as the decision will then be made for you.

I walked past a 993 C2 at lunchtime today, which was the other motor I was considering. Did I worry I'd made a mistake? Did I f...

[AlexGTT]

Contradictory? Perhaps not the usual fanboi view :-)

In all seriousness, you're asking whether to plump for an M3 or CSL on a CSL forum. You're bound to get lots of pro-CSL chat, some good some not so good. I'm not pro-CSL, instead I just look at the factors with a clear head.

The fact of the matter is that a CSL has something like a £10k premium on a stock M3. To some thats no money, to others it represents winning the lottery. YMMV ! Its not a £10k better car though is it?

And put a stock M3 in the hands of someone talented versus average Jo in his CSL. We know the outcome there.

I believe I answered your subject, the question being "Real world difference" - the difference is that you'll be £10k lighter in the wallet with something a bit more prestigious but it won't halve your commute time.

:whistle:

[alexk]

10k difference, hahaha.

That's UK prices.
Come in CH, where a good M3 is 30k CHF and a good CSL 85k CHF

Here CSL is not the average Joe's car

[funtime]

stolen from another post but sums up your situation!!!!!
(this thing is just phenomenal, and if anyone on here is still in two minds about whether to take the CSL plunge, then all I can say is don't even risk taking it for a test drive as the decision will then be made for you.

I walked past a 993 C2 at lunchtime today, which was the other motor I was considering. Did I worry I'd made a mistake? Did I f...

Yes mate I saw that on the guys post and it did make me think!

On a separate note, has your mate got his footage from Sunday? wouldn't mind seeing it is possible my footage is alright, but would be much better with a wide angle!

10k difference, hahaha.

That's UK prices.
Come in CH, where a good M3 is 30k CHF and a good CSL 85k CHF

Here CSL is not the average Joe's car

To be fair, you can get a good M3 over here for £10k but it will be basic, and a good CSL for £25k so at 2.5x the cost of a standard M3, it's not far of the price difference where you are (respectively speaking of course)

£10k sounds like £30k where you are :thumbs:

[alexk]

Yes mate I saw that on the guys post and it did make me think!

On a separate note, has your mate got his footage from Sunday? wouldn't mind seeing it is possible my footage is alright, but would be much better with a wide angle!



To be fair, you can get a good M3 over here for £10k but it will be basic, and a good CSL for £25k so at 2.5x the cost of a standard M3, it's not far of the price difference where you are (respectively speaking of course)

£10k sounds like £30k where you are :thumbs:

New price of the CSL here was 130k CHF. 80k is 61% of the original price.
New price of the M3 E46 was aprox. 90k CHF. 30k is 30% of the original price.

80k CHF is 53k GBP which is close to what the M3 CSL used to cost in UK brand new.
So I personally find the 20k GBP very low, which is good for the people in UK, but it doesn't really reflect the target group of this car.

[shimmy]

even the speeding fines are big in Swissland, i paid nearly £550

[funtime]

even the speeding fines are big in Swissland, i paid nearly £550

YIKES, how fast were you going? (obviously not fast enough :hahaha

[alexk]

even the speeding fines are big in Swissland, i paid nearly £550

What did you do Shimmy ?

PS : a lot of people from UK fall into the trap, they don't know how strict the Swiss are :banghead:

[shimmy]

What did you do Shimmy ?

PS : a lot of people from UK fall into the trap, they don't know how strict the Swiss are :banghead:

not very fast, and in a queue of 15 cars doing similar speeds:bigcry:

[toofastforyou]

New price of the CSL here was 130k CHF. 80k is 61% of the original price.
New price of the M3 E46 was aprox. 90k CHF. 30k is 30% of the original price.

80k CHF is 53k GBP which is close to what the M3 CSL used to cost in UK brand new.
So I personally find the 20k GBP very low, which is good for the people in UK, but it doesn't really reflect the target group of this car.

when the csl was released the exchange rate was 2.3/2.4 chf to 1 gbp, and at that time a csl in switzerland worked out to roughly 55k gbp. the chf to pound rate was the same at 2.3/2.4 chf to 1 gbp for as long as i can remember and im 30. its only in the past few years the chf has miraculously strengthened to 1.5 chf to 1 gbp. if you look at it like that the csl in switzerland has only depreciated 2k gbp since it was released.

so thats not really a fair comparison.