Some more on the M3 GTS

[Mark CSL]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/bmw-m3-gts-gallery-2010-11-05?imageNo=0

[Great Pretender]

I've got a bit of a lob-on for the GTS and I'm not sure why.

Evo didn't rate it too highly compared with the 997RS, albeit Car seem to like it better.

It just looks like a double-hard bastard next to the boringly familiar 911 silhouette.

[AlexGTT]

I think next to the 997 GT3 RS it looks second rate and like it crashed through Halfords front window into the Ripspeed dept. Also makes the 997 GT3 RS look great value and it's substantially quicker on Ring.

There's no contest.

[shimmy]

Seeing it in the flesh made me realise it is pants.

Masively overpriced due to low numbers but nothing more than a homologation exercise to run the 4.4 ltr engine

Spoiler, Cf roof and interior looks rubbish for £120k

Engine bay looks sweet.

truth is you can do this yourself and better with an e92 M3 (much easier than M3 to CSL). More power and better suspension.

[toofastforyou]

I think next to the 997 GT3 RS it looks second rate and like it crashed through Halfords front window into the Ripspeed dept. Also makes the 997 GT3 RS look great value and it's substantially quicker on Ring.

There's no contest.

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

[shimmy]

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

i think they are only made in orange

[AlexGTT]

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

I wouldn't care what paint was on it. It's still shite in comparison. It's also way too heavy at 1530kg. I've seen nicer rear wings on the Saxo's racing round the town centre.

Also, as me, Shimmy, Yanto and Daz saw, they use the same carbon roof as the regular coupe and badly fill the fixing for the sharks fin. Very second rate and not bespoke enough for the price.

[toofastforyou]

i think they are only made in orange

yeah they are, for some strange reason. horrible colour. so pikey

if i got one i think the first thing i would do is spray it frozen grey.

my mate got a e92 competition pack in frozen grey with all the csl carbon bits, it looks seriously sexy like an e92 csl! i'll get a pic up of both of ours side by side soon.

[toofastforyou]

I wouldn't care what paint was on it. It's still shite in comparison. It's also way too heavy at 1530kg. I've seen nicer rear wings on the Saxo's racing round the town centre.

Also, as me, Shimmy, Yanto and Daz saw, they use the same carbon roof as the regular coupe and badly fill the fixing for the sharks fin. Very second rate and not bespoke enough for the price.

apparently the wing is the from bmw 320 race cars.

i agree about the price. bmw should have produced more, lowered the price (£70k) and called it the e92 csl. i would have been all over it like flies on hot s**t.

[mattCSLnut]

For £120K I'd want this :drool: :thumbs:

[toofastforyou]

For £120K I'd want this :drool: :thumbs:

well you can have this

[AlexGTT]

well you can have this

No thanks. A bit OTT for me. I'd have the performance up-grades but go stealthy on the looks.

[toofastforyou]

No thanks. A bit OTT for me. I'd have the performance up-grades but go stealthy on the looks.

i think when you are pushing 600bhp you need a wider track to get the power down, so its kinda part and parcel of the performance upgrades.

and i dont think bright orange on the gts is less stealthy than this monster.

whether or not i would want one is an entirely different matter.

[AlexGTT]

i think when you are pushing 600bhp you need a wider track to get the power down, so its kinda part and parcel of the performance upgrades.

and i dont think bright orange on the gts is less stealthy than this monster.

whether or not i would want one is an entirely different matter.

I didn't mean converting a GTS. I was thinking a bogo coupe.

[toofastforyou]

I didn't mean converting a GTS. I was thinking a bogo coupe.

gts or bog coupe , the chassis is not designed to handle that kind of power, thus to push 600bhp, modifications to the chassis must be made. they dont need to be, but for better traction in lower gears and powering out of corners it is paramount.