CUP hooligans please read...

[AlexGTT]

Thanks Alex, very helpful - and yes maybe I should just man up and buy cups :hahaha:

:hahaha: @ Duncan's canvas :hahaha:

Out of interest, I know you do a fair few track days - how many sets of Cup's a year do you go through? (assuming you do a fair few road miles 5000 or so?)

With the right geo and careful pressure checks, I get about 3 with road mileage to get there and back. But it depends what tracks as some are more abrasive. Driving style will also effect that. Don't overdrive/overheat them and you'd be surprised how long they can last.

[DazBlackCSL]

Sort it Dazza.:whistle:

give me 2 :-D

[AlexGTT]

give me 2 :-D

Only if it's a threesome scene.:whistle: Preference for black hair or brunette. Thank you please!

[funtime]

With the right geo and careful pressure checks, I get about 3 with road mileage to get there and back. But it depends what tracks as some are more abrasive. Driving style will also effect that. Don't overdrive/overheat them and you'd be surprised how long they can last.

3 complete set's a year!? Jesus how many track days do you do Alex? :thumbs::smokin:

I know someone told me that they did a whole season (8 trackdays) on one set of cup's last year so I know they can last long.... whether I can get them to or not is another matter!

[AlexGTT]

3 complete set's a year!? Jesus how many track days do you do Alex? :thumbs::smokin:

I know someone told me that they did a whole season (8 trackdays) on one set of cup's last year so I know they can last long.... whether I can get them to or not is another matter!

No, 3ish trackdays per set.:clown:

Some years I've put many more than 3 sets on.:whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

and here we have a car

[funtime]

No, 3ish trackdays per set.:clown:

Some years I've put many more than 3 sets on.:whistle:

Oh I see... many more than 3 a year - :hahaha::supz:

and here we have a car

Where? :hahaha:

[shimmy]

I know someone told me that they did a whole season (8 trackdays) on one set of cup's last year so I know they can last long.... whether I can get them to or not is another matter!

HAAAAAAAAAAAA can't even mention my name now!

Iirc when I started Tds with mistakes and overheating etc etc I was getting thru a set if front Cups every 4 track days on average and rears every 6 track days. You do most the damage when they are fresh and new and unheatcycled.

Last year my 4x265 lasted 8 track days.

It depends how you drive and how hard you push along with conditions and geo but I guess you'll find fronts don't last long and rears a bit better :thumbs:

[AlexGTT]

HAAAAAAAAAAAA can't even mention my name now!

Iirc when I started Tds with mistakes and overheating etc etc I was getting thru a set if front Cups every 4 track days on average and rears every 6 track days. You do most the damage when they are fresh and new and unheatcycled.

Last year my 4x265 lasted 8 track days.

It depends how you drive and how hard you push along with conditions and geo but I guess you'll find fronts don't last long and rears a bit better :thumbs:

Yes, to be fair I would get 3ish TD's and a Ring trip out of my fronts. Rears always seemed to last quite a lot longer. Hence I now have a stash of 8 part worn rears to get through and will probably do this season with rears all round on TD's without having to buy any Cups and have PSS's for road.

[magnust]

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It depends how you drive and how hard you push along with conditions and geo but I guess you'll find fronts don't last long and rears a bit better :thumbs:

Sometimes my rears go before the fronts. After some extra fun on the track not keeping my right foot in check :whistle:

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I would not recommend driving the ring in the wet on cups unless you know your cars behavior well and feel confident you can handle any surprises it will throw at you. There will be surprises....

[glendog74]

My Cups last a decent amount of time as i usually drive to the Ring/track days with my road tyres fitted and Cups shoved on the rear seats!

On track i tend to find that my fronts wear at almost double the rate at which the rears do. Fronts take a pounding on track, especially on our short UK circuits.

[magnust]

How do you get four wheels into the car? Folding the back seats I can shove two wheels in easily, but four? Would be good to know :-)

[glendog74]

How do you get four wheels into the car? Folding the back seats I can shove two wheels in easily, but four? Would be good to know :-)

I can get a set of OEM CSL 19" wheels in ok without folding the seats. :thumbs:

You can either have them upright or horizontal. I prefer horizontal (stacked 2 high) as they move very little on the seat under braking!

Firstly, i place an old sheet or cover onto the rear seats to help avoid marking damage. To stack them you must first make a stack of 3 high on one side before placing the last wheel on the other side seat. Then pull the highest wheel of the original stack over to make 2 x 2 stacks.

Tip: always have 1 rear/1 front sat next to each other as you cannot get 2 rears next to each other.

I hope this makes sense...!

I haven't tried it with my wider 18" BBS yet though... :bigcry:

[Pip1968]

I would not recommend driving the ring in the wet on cups unless you know your cars behaviour well and feel confident you can handle any surprises it will throw at you. There will be surprises....

I would concur with Magnust on that. I have never driven the Cups in the wet and would certainly not drive back from the Nurburgring with new Cups never mind ones with low tread. I say that as I like to make progress and the day would be too long p#ssy footing around looking out for standing water should it rain.

Ideally get some PS2s for the trip there and back and a take the Cups to switch over on arrival (provided it is dry). I am sure there will be somewhere to get the tyres changed on the wheels if you do not have a spare set of wheels.

New car/track and wet with Cups could result in disaster.

Finally I speak as someone whose first track experience was the Nurburgring. I have still not done any UK track days - I like the freedom of no helmet although I am sure I will learn the hard way eventually. I go across two or three times a year and as you will read on here even the 'experts' find it risky due to other drivers never mind rain and cups.

Pip

[AlexGTT]

I haven't tried it with my wider 18" BBS yet though... :bigcry:

We'll find out next week mate.