Thoughts on Ex Muhle

[DuncanR]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Over the past few years one or two cars have come to grief exiting this bend, and I started wondering why, in particular 2 incidents spring to mind involving the same type of car, this may of course just be incidental but its what started me off.
The question is, why can you bung a car around that bend time and again, pretty much in the same place, then come round one time, and have a problem, well, how about this for an idea, bearing in mind the bad camber and hump on the inside line at this corner. The filling station at Breidsheid is a popular one, particularly for anyone with a JK, so .... quite a few cars get back on there, with full tanks, go uphill, and then throw a hard right, possible fuel spill area for some :smt102 ?? your thoughts !
Some interesting vids from my research !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss7zbsxq77Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfwYOqDquAE&NR=1

A lap with someone who knows, Sabine fast fwd to 4:45 for entry into Breidscheid. See attached pics for hr turn in point and apex.

http://bridgetogantry.com/2/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=174:classic-sabine-video-from-2002&catid=55:touristenfahrten&Itemid=300088

Couldnt complete my research without this classic ! I know youve all seen it before !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuMTcrZpMFI

[northernjim]

It was the scene of a big oil spill on the thursday, plus like you say how many people actually hit that particular apex???? I know its not the one I'd put a bet on hitting:bigcry:

[mattCSLnut]

Remember the 7 second hero Y.T. clip :whistle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E

[DuncanR]

Remember the 7 second hero Y.T. clip :whistle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Qxic6qj3E

Uh Matt ?? .. you obviously didnt look at ALL of my post did you ??? :banghead::hahaha:

[northernjim]

Uh Matt ?? .. you obviously didnt look at ALL of my post did you ??? :banghead::hahaha:

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[monkeycsl]

Shame about the guy who on one wheel went past her died later that day after falling off on an oil spill.:smt009

[mattCSLnut]

Uh Matt ?? .. you obviously didnt look at ALL of my post did you ??? :banghead::hahaha:

D'oh :banghead: No, I didn't :clown:
SORRY, I'll get me coat :smt090

[Pip1968]

BMW's Jorg Muller's comment on Ex-Muhle :- No sooner have you mastered the lowest point of the Nordschleife in Breidscheid than you are literally catapulted back upwards: the right hand Ex Muhle takes you around the hill as if on a ramp. The task here is to find the optimum entry speed: if you overdo it, you understeer and slide up onto the high curb, if you are too catious, you will hardly make it up the steep climb, especially with a less powerful car.

Approach Ex Muhle to the left of the track, give only a short, hard stab of the brakes and keep close to the inside curb at the apex. Beware: at the exit, front wheel drive vehicles will tend to understeer heavily, rear wheel drive cars will oversteer - be sure to accelerate early and cleanly but never too hard.

Pip

[DuncanR]

Good find Pip ... all seems so simple !!:hahaha:

[shimmy]

BMW's Jorg Muller's comment on Ex-Muhle :- No sooner have you mastered the lowest point of the Nordschleife in Breidscheid than you are literally catapulted back upwards: the right hand Ex Muhle takes you around the hill as if on a ramp. The task here is to find the optimum entry speed: if you overdo it, you understeer and slide up onto the high curb, if you are too catious, you will hardly make it up the steep climb, especially with a less powerful car.

Approach Ex Muhle to the left of the track, give only a short, hard stab of the brakes and keep close to the inside curb at the apex. Beware: at the exit, front wheel drive vehicles will tend to understeer heavily, rear wheel drive cars will oversteer - be sure to accelerate early and cleanly but never too hard.

Pip

just what i was gonna say (PS is this all about the Ring?)

Good stuff Duncan, much better than your usual garbage posts :bigcry:

[ando]

Good point Dunc, but I reckon most peeps, as mates did a few years back, get to know the track start getting quicker and quicker, chasing That best lap time and end up wanting to get a head start on the up hill section, not enjoying the fact that the TC kicks in when you try hard on Ex-Muhle and start switching off the DSC so the power stays in and gets you up the hill gaining those few precious seconds off of That lap time, then things go wrong when you start trying to hard. I think the csl makes it easy to be a fast driver but start trying hard with the toys switched off and you need to be a driving god to hang on to it. How many owners are there that are that good?

My 2p worth.

Ando.

[DuncanR]

I have only driven Ring with M mode off ...or is it on ??? whatever, the light came on in the dash !! And even with that working I still get the TC light to flash, so my next step would be to go full DSC off, but for what gain ? ... a few seconds here and there ? ...fook me once we all get on the :beer: .. we all knock a few off anyway and its much safer lying than actually doing it !!:hahaha: ... so I will keep telling fibs and hopefully out of the Armco :thumbs: