1M v CSL at ring

[Rutkowski]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL...

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

you have just had some of your own medicine!! :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[Rutkowski]

live by the sword, die by the sword. :hahaha:

[alexk]

You have found the movie.



I have driven my nuts behind my back to follow that CSL.

CSL was modded. Driver had more then 1000 laps behinds it s belt. This CSL was for sure faster. But a 1M with the same pilot sport cups could keep up with an original CSL. There is not much in it. Believe me.

1M chassis/suspension/steering is awesome it s better then the CSL out of the box. But engine wise the CSL is unbeatable.

Well an M3 GTS (with proper tyres, brakes, suspension, cage etcetera) is 1sec faster than a stock CSL so can't see how an 1M with cups can beat the CSL @ the Ring.

Also read in the BMWblog that you don't believe the 7m50s that Von Saurma did with a stock CSL.
http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/08/02/vi...ng/#more-64692
Shall we assume that all sportauto laptimes are incorrect or just the ones we don't like ?

It would be interesting to try to follow a fast CSL driver, i.e. T$

[Bounce]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL...

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

:hahaha::hahaha::thumbs:

[northernjim]

Oh and even i have lapped quicker than the '1000 laps driver' does in his considerably modified CSL...

So, it's not like the 1M is pushing any Ring time records considering a totally standard CSL has lapped the Ring in 7m47s - albeit with prefessional driver... :smokin:

Can't believe i rose to that one... Damn you Kris! :birdman: :hahaha:

exactly what does 1000 laps mean anyway? just that he knows his way round...

its no indication of talent or willingness to 'push on' plus it could have been his first lap of the day after a year off.....


can't believe I rose to it either :hahaha::gayfight:

[SpineOnABap]

Well an M3 GTS (with proper tyres, brakes, suspension, cage etcetera) is 1sec faster than a stock CSL so can't see how an 1M with cups can beat the CSL @ the Ring.

Also read in the BMWblog that you don't believe the 7m50s that Von Saurma did with a stock CSL.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2011/08/02/video-bmw-1m-vs-csl-on-the-nurburgring/#more-64692

Shall we assume that all sportauto laptimes are incorrect or just the ones we don't like ?

It would be interesting to try to follow a fast CSL driver, i.e. T$

Hi Alex, for the un-educated - who is "T$"?

[Rutkowski]

Hi Alex, for the un-educated - who is "T$"?

a forum member, Elliot.

[Rutkowski]

M3 GTS on corsa tyres 7.48

M3 CSL on cups tyres 7.50

GTS on cups tyres ??

M3 CSL on corsa tyres ??

1M will never, ever achieve 7.50 on cups.

It does 8.22 iirc on road tyres.

[Rutkowski]

exactly what does 1000 laps mean anyway? just that he knows his way round...

its no indication of talent or willingness to 'push on' plus it could have been his first lap of the day after a year off.....


can't believe I rose to it either :hahaha::gayfight:

:hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: CSL owner through and through!! :hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha:

[Bounce]

I done 8.10 btg on my approx 15th lap of the ring, that was with passenger and traffic too. And on far far too soft springs.

Pah.....race drivers, 1000 laps experience, my arse. :hahaha:


T/$...im coming for you:smokin:, theres only room for one thalidomide on here mate:hahaha:

:hahaha::hahaha:

[alexk]

M3 GTS on corsa tyres 7.48

M3 CSL on cups tyres 7.50

GTS on cups tyres ??

M3 CSL on corsa tyres ??

1M will never, ever achieve 7.50 on cups.

It does 8.22 iirc on road tyres.

Hi mate,

This is the same discussion time after time.
Cups were designed for the CSL, it came with them from the factory.
The GTS has proper brakes, proper suspension, cage etc.
Shall we also put in the list "M3 CSL on brembo GT brakes, KW clubsport, halfcage" ?
I think you get my point.

I am not saying the 1M is a bad car, quite the contrary.
But it's not what the ///Marketing division is trying to promote that it is.
And in no way it can beat the CSL which is already 8 years old.
Also Andre seems to be a good driver and it's also his profession // driving cars.
But it seems that he is not that fast @ the Ring with the 1M.
The M3 CSL owner is slow (for whatever reason right... maybe he was on the phone with his Mrs, we don't know).
Throwing statements like ". I really doubt the 7.50 CSL ring time the 1M is pretty close already there no 25 sec difference. Mount some pilot sport cups on the 1M and there is not much in it." are a bit silly in such a uncontrolled comparison.

Love to all of you :smt055

[shane@mbtech]

:hahaha::hahaha:

That was on inferior cup+ too:thumbs:

[Advevo]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.

[shane@mbtech]

Lol@reactions

I never said it was a perfect lap. It s far from that. I had to back off for traffic lots of times and i even had to go off throttle because of an accident.

Taken this in consideration i did about 8 min flat with an off factory 1M. Which is still not fast enough for BTG to beat sport auto time.

But you need a clear track without much traffic to have maximum attack.

I like to see a 7.50 onboard video full lap or a 7.30 BTG Factory CSL lap. Show me please i like to see it.

Don't bite too hard Michael