Club Motorsport???

[northernjim]

yeah pretty much agree with the ninja pity thorney cocked it up the first time around :whistle:myself I think you can keep things pretty simple it doesnt have to be too expensive, first of all you can use a road legal trackday tyre like the yoko ad08 which comes with 8mm of tread depth so it can be used in the dry and the wet and is approx 2 seconds a lap slower than a cup but will last 2-3times longer. So which would appeal to the road/trackday guys who dont want to buy an extra set of wheels, keep the car on standard wheels (get a set on ebay for £100) as regards suspension you need top mounts, KW and Billstein do a none adjustable set for approx £1000, only upgrade the front brakes KSport do a set for approx£1000. Standard rear brakes are okay with upgraded pads, usual thing like bushes upgraded, weights 1400 kgs fuelled up and if you want to run adjustable front suspension and ap's front and rear the car has to weigh 1450 kgs, so here you go, things can be run on a budget all the above is really to get guys who are doing trackdays and still race in a road legal car, two races a day both 30mins one or two drivers to keep the cost down

Here a list of entrants
Curly - Jim (purple preditor ) :smokin:

team mates or competitors:whistle: just as long as there is no pedalling:notworthy: involved I could be interested

[Curly]

Not on the bike Jim we will try that at the ring next year

[thegingerninja]

Suspension will have to be aftermarket. 90% of M3 now are 60k miles plus and the OeM suspension will be fucked. The last thing you want to do is buy new OeM suspension if you go racing, and next last thing is race or OeM suspension fucked or not as the tyres won't last esp in 40 minute races.

Tbh everybody who races would want suspension and brakes upgraded along with decent tyres. This would also mean that CSL/M3 could both run as only difference worth talking about would be a CF roof.

I'm just going in the garage to start building I've always wanted to enter my CSL in the TrAckday Trophy
Nice idea to have mix of 40 and 20 minute races.

Sorry - I didn't explain the suspension bit enough. The only standard part is the top mounts and the wishbones. You can replace any bush with a nylon one anywhere on the car (except for the top mount), but no solid mounts. The idea of this is to make the generic £2000 suspension system as effective as a £5000 system - since there is a certain amount of "movement" in all these parts - if everything was solid mounted then a £5000 system would out perform the £2000 system and hence the guy who spends most money wins - not the ethos of this idea, and Thorney has already proved that this does not work. Dampers and springs are free and will probably be 2 or 3 way adjustable, so there is loads of scope for getting the set-up tuned. Definately be a control tyre, a treaded one which would hopefully be road legal for those who wish to keep their cars road legal and even possibly drive to the races (just depends on if it is in a fit state to drive home!!) Maybe the chance of doing some 2, 4 and 6 hour races? Just depends on costs and demand.

The main aim for this - and it was only a chat over a beer at a race meeting recently, was to give a platform for the E46 to race at sensible money. Just take a look at all the E46's out there with trick gearboxes costing thousands, massive engine upgrades, diffs, slicks, wets, aero, mega expensive suspension, pedal boxes, plastic windows, carbon fibre parts, stand alone ecu ignition systems which need a lot of dyno time to get them right etc etc etc......and in the end, people have run out of money and then can't afford to race the damn thing - so whats the point? The chap who is considering starting this series has no interest in trying to make money from this, people can buy their parts from where ever they want, so long as they are to the regulations. I'm already trawling ebay for an early M3, £5000 will definately buy a complete working car in the near future. Cage, seat, suspension, bushes, harness, wheels and tryes and away you go!

This would be a fair level playing field where the driver with the best skill and set-up knowledge will succeed. I hope this happens.

[shane@mbtech]

I'll be up for this once wedding out of the way. :beer:

[thegingerninja]

yeah pretty much agree with the ninja pity thorney cocked it up the first time around :whistle:myself I think you can keep things pretty simple it doesnt have to be too expensive, first of all you can use a road legal trackday tyre like the yoko ad08 which comes with 8mm of tread depth so it can be used in the dry and the wet and is approx 2 seconds a lap slower than a cup but will last 2-3times longer. So which would appeal to the road/trackday guys who dont want to buy an extra set of wheels, keep the car on standard wheels (get a set on ebay for £100) as regards suspension you need top mounts KW and Billstein do a none ajustable set for approx £1000, only upgrade the front brakes KSport do a set for approx£1000. Standard rear brakes are okay with upgraded pads, usual thing like bushes upgraded, weights 1400 kgs fuelled up and if you want to run adjustable front suspension and ap's front and rear the car has to weigh 1450 kgs, so here you go things can be run on a budget all the above is really to get guys who are doing trackdays and still race in a road legal car, two races a day both 30mins one or two drivers to keep the cost down

Here a list of entrants
Curly - Jim (purple preditor ) :smokin:

Your bang on the money Curly - as usual!

[_Nathan_]

in the end, people have run out of money and then can't afford to race the damn thing

Hi :thumbs:

[shimmy]

Hi :thumbs:

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


I ran out of money before i started buidling mine :-D,

[billyboysm3]

Shimmy i reckon you've got enough spare parts stashed away ready for this, all you need is the car.

[83SY]

I like the sound of this! Keep the rules simple so no scope for 'biggest wallet wins' run road tyres to keep the cost down. Would like to think cica 10k would give you a good car ready to race!

Interesting :thumbs:

[Yanto_csl]

I'll be skint once wedding out of the way. :beer:

EFA...

[s.mac]

Lawsy, I asked about your Ards test at Oulton. I will give you a buzz tomorrow

[terryb]

In the early stages of looking into some 'Club' motorsport, nothing to serious just good value for money fun. Had a chat with Shim regarding the Mazda MX5's. :beer:

Will keep doing the TD's in the CSL just fancy the 'thrill of the race'
Any ideas? :whistle:

I raced mx5s with Shimmy Racing last year and I can guarantee that there is no closer or fun race series available and the fact that it is relatively cheap is a bonus. 58 cars on the grid at Silverstone....

[shane@mbtech]

EFA...

Ill be skint long before the wedding arrives mate:banghead:

Mrs has just organised invites. HOW MUCH:moan:

[s.mac]

depends what you call cheap Terry. I didn't think I would spend half as much as I have :bigcry: and there's something that needs repairing after every meet in the XR Challenge :banghead: which just adds to the long bill

[shimmy]

I raced mx5s with Shimmy Racing last year and I can guarantee that there is no closer or fun race series available and the fact that it is relatively cheap is a bonus. 58 cars on the grid at Silverstone....

52 max, actually was 49 only:-D but still queuing down to the COmplex