selling my evo and upgradeing to a csl

[Matt3087]

hi guys im new on here and its my first post so go easy on me .

ive owned a m3 and a few evo,s now and im thinking of selling my evo 8 mr fq320 and buying a csl next year hopefully.

ever since i visited the nurburgring and seen and heard these csl,s go round ive wanted one ever since.

what im wanting to know is what to watch out for when buying the csl im in the garage trade myself so can check them over and do most the work myself but im not really sure what to look out for and whats a common fault on them ?

only thing i keep hearing is that the smg gearbox can give problems ? is this true ?

any info or advice would be much appreciated thanks

matt :smt023

[Barry C]

Hi Matt,

The SMG isn't a major problem really. I wouln't worry about it, touch wood.

The biggest thing to check out is for cracks around the sub frame.

Do a search and yuo'll find lots of info on this.

Other than that, make sure you buy a good one, preferably with BMW warranty.

Buy one, You'll love it!:smokin:

[Steve B]

I blame the Nurburgring as well..... Went there in September and sold my then Mk2 420bhp Focus RS and bought a CSL 4 weeks later..

You'll love it:beer:

Regarding the subframe issue as long as the car has FSH and is under 10 years old its a free fix at BMW (mines cracked and is going in saturday 10th Nov for replacement).


Steve

[Neil M]

Check out the buyers guide by Mark CSL - invaluable:

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/csl-register/csl-register-main-discussion-centre/370545-m3-csl-buyers-guide

The most important points in my opinion are:
Full service history (particularly the Running in service at or about 1,200mls. also look out for missed services, as some people closet them away and only do nominal mileage, they seen to think the servicing requirements don't matter, again I'm thinking the Bi-Annual proviso which does not relate to mileage.)

Extended Warranty in place (it can be difficult to obtain a warranty if it has been allowed to lapse without paying a premium).

I spent nearly 18 months looking for one that met this criteria, saw plenty of low mileage examples but when I inquired about Warranty there was almost always a problem, concerning the Bi-Annual proviso, which can add another £1K to the price and that's before they would issue one. So best getting one which has the warranty in place, then is just a matter of transfer and continuation.

Hope this helps and good luck - you wont regret it.

[Matt3087]

Hi Matt,

The SMG isn't a major problem really. I wouln't worry about it, touch wood.

The biggest thing to check out is for cracks around the sub frame.

Do a search and yuo'll find lots of info on this.

Other than that, make sure you buy a good one, preferably with BMW warranty.

Buy one, You'll love it!:smokin:

thanks

yes been reading qwite abit about the subframe cracking looks a big job it looks like something i wouldent want to do

do they all crack in time or is it just the odd few ? and i assume if its been lowerd etc then bmw will not repair it for free as its been tamperd with ?

[Matt3087]

Check out the buyers guide by Mark CSL - invaluable:

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/csl-register/csl-register-main-discussion-centre/370545-m3-csl-buyers-guide

The most important points in my opinion are:
Full service history (particularly the Running in service at or about 1,200mls. also look out for missed services, as some people closet them away and only do nominal mileage, they seen to think the servicing requirements don't matter, again I'm thinking the Bi-Annual proviso which does not relate to mileage.)

Extended Warranty in place (it can be difficult to obtain a warranty if it has been allowed to lapse without paying a premium).

I spent nearly 18 months looking for one that met this criteria, saw plenty of low mileage examples but when I inquired about Warranty there was almost always a problem, concerning the Bi-Annual proviso, which can add another £1K to the price and that's before they would issue one. So best getting one which has the warranty in place, then is just a matter of transfer and continuation.

Hope this helps and good luck - you wont regret it.

thanks for that i will take a look :thumbs:

[Steve B]

Ref the subframe issue it's hard to tell how "bad" it is, looking on M3Cutters theres a lot of cars with the issue (not sure how many CSLs have had a problem tho).


Steve

[Bounce]

Ref the subframe issue it's hard to tell how "bad" it is, looking on M3Cutters theres a lot of cars with the issue (not sure how many CSLs have had a problem tho).


Steve

Quite a few CSLs have also had these issues Steve,mines booked into Elms at the end of the month for a check over and oil service.Im hoping they do find an issue with the subframe,so I can get it fixed foc before the 10years is up.

[Steve B]

Quite a few CSLs have also had these issues Steve,mines booked into Elms at the end of the month for a check over and oil service.Im hoping they do find an issue with the subframe,so I can get it fixed foc before the 10years is up.

Exactly why when I was off monday this week I got mine looked at... Strange really hoping you have a big issue like that lol. Originally I was going to take mine to Elms but getting a thursday off is a serious pain for me.

Heres hoping you have an issue as well lol:beer:


Steve

[Bounce]

Heres hoping you have an issue as well lol:beer:


Steve

:hahaha:It is a strange one.Its also odd that some cars used on track haven't had it and others who have never taken them on track have had it.

[martin770]

:hahaha:It is a strange one.Its also odd that some cars used on track haven't had it and others who have never taken them on track have had it.

Yeh very weird mine has been checked and it's fine, and I know mine has had track action ?????

[Matt3087]

so when do bmw stop doing the repairs for free on the rear subframe ?

and how much are they to do if you have to pay for it ?

[Steve B]

Once your car is 10 years old..... Not a clue on the cost after that time scale but I'd guess at £5000+

There is an alternative tho....

http://www.redish-motorsport.com/E46M3FloorSubframeCrackRepairReinforcement.html

[s.mac]

there a quite a few companies who can do the repair and for a lot less than 5k

I was OK, all sorted under warranty and I would think with warranty in place, it would be covered anyway, regardless of the 10 year good will

[shimmy]

Once your car is 10 years old..... Not a clue on the cost after that time scale but I'd guess at £5000+

There is an alternative tho....

http://www.redish-motorsport.com/E46...forcement.html

NOT TRUE

Rumour only says BMW will stop fixing under good will at 10 years old. However if you car is registered Jan2004 + it already has a 12 year bodywork warranty (not 6) therefore you are likely to be covered for at lkeast 12 years from registration, even without any further goodwill.

Mine therefore should be covered until January 2016 (in case it cracks again)