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    Elms subframe crack

    My first contact with Elms today, spoke to Emma. Very impressed, I called and asked for Emma or Gareth, they replied 'do you have a CSL' straight away!

    Car is going there for confirmation/photos of the cracked floor.

    After the car being mistreated by one dealer it's going to be nice to get it pampered and looked after by Elms!

    #2
    Anyone know at what mileages CSLs develop cracks or does it just depend on how is driven ?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Straightsix View Post
      Anyone know at what mileages CSLs develop cracks or does it just depend on how is driven ?
      Could be anytime.

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        #4
        Mine was going in to Elms this weekend for its subframe, delayed a week as the bodyshop is max'd out and running behind.

        Anyone with a CSL who hasn't had their subframe checked recently or is waiting till it gets serviced next should get in to a BMW dealer soon as the 10yr window for goodwill repairs will be running out for "some" cars this year. (Think its 12yrs for 04 cars ??)

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          #5
          I'd get it checked sooner rather than later.

          The repair is NOT done under the corrosion warranty or any extended warranty, but BMW Goodwill, meaning BMW could stop free repairs (or change the qualifying criteria) at anytime they feel like it.

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            #6
            Originally posted by portlandgrey View Post
            I'd get it checked sooner rather than later.

            The repair is NOT done under the corrosion warranty or any extended warranty, but BMW Goodwill, meaning BMW could stop free repairs (or change the qualifying criteria) at anytime they feel like it.
            that may be true but the fact they choose to do it under goodwill doesnt change the fact that 12 year bodywork warranty will cover it..........i gather your must be 2003

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              #7
              Mine was repaired last November on around 67500 miles

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                #8
                Mine was repaired two weeks ago at Elms, excellent service. There is a waiting list for the subframe crack fix...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by thrashermax
                  My first contact with Elms today, spoke to Emma. Very impressed, I called and asked for Emma or Gareth, they replied 'do you have a CSL' straight away!

                  Car is going there for confirmation/photos of the cracked floor.

                  After the car being mistreated by one dealer it's going to be nice to get it pampered and looked after by Elms!
                  join the queue, the earliest elms can get cesil in for subframe repair is 3rd week in april, which is cutting it fine for munchen. MOT fail until its done!!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Straightsix View Post
                    Anyone know at what mileages CSLs develop cracks or does it just depend on how is driven ?
                    It's age related, not mileage.

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                      #11
                      Think Emma had half the forum on the phone today!. Got mine booked in for after easter. Mot, insp II, subframe check / repair, auch!

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                        #12
                        Have BMW stated anywhere in writing that must be under 10 years old or is this hear say ?

                        Is it true the repaired subframe by BMW is more or less no improvements over the old section so same problem again in 10 years ?

                        Also what do u guys think of using M Prove who supposedly offer a localised repair I think to make it stronger ?

                        Also are cars that are original so no cracks and don't need new subframe worth more thAn ones that have been "repaired" if everything else is exactly the same such as condition mileage number of owners colour options age etc ?

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                          #13
                          I've got a headache

                          School quiz last night:banghead:

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Straightsix View Post
                            Have BMW stated anywhere in writing that must be under 10 years old or is this hear say ?

                            Is it true the repaired subframe by BMW is more or less no improvements over the old section so same problem again in 10 years ?

                            Also what do u guys think of using M Prove who supposedly offer a localised repair I think to make it stronger ?

                            Also are cars that are original so no cracks and don't need new subframe worth more thAn ones that have been "repaired" if everything else is exactly the same such as condition mileage number of owners colour options age etc ?


                            There's some pics somewhere on this site of a car that had the localised repair done and the boot floor was still ripped to shreads....


                            In a year or 2's time when all the cars are 10 years old would you rather buy a car that had a full repair or 1 that hadn't and waiting for it to crack..???


                            Steve

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Straightsix View Post
                              Have BMW stated anywhere in writing that must be under 10 years old or is this hear say ?

                              Is it true the repaired subframe by BMW is more or less no improvements over the old section so same problem again in 10 years ?

                              Also what do u guys think of using M Prove who supposedly offer a localised repair I think to make it stronger ?

                              Also are cars that are original so no cracks and don't need new subframe worth more thAn ones that have been "repaired" if everything else is exactly the same such as condition mileage number of owners colour options age etc ?
                              I've read that the replacement floor is modified for greater support. After fitting, its then resin injected.

                              BMW have looked at the problem & provided an expensive, labour intensive fix - given the repair is 40 odd hours in labour alone.
                              If it was possible to sort the issue with a localised repair, costing far less, then i'm sure that BMW would have done it- they are footing the bill after all.

                              If for any reason BMW reject a repair claim, then you've go Mprove & Reddish offering the localised welding/plate fix at a more wallet friendly price.

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