Talk to me about brakes...

[MCSL]

Ok guys could do with some advice and recommendations please

I have bought (with the very, very likely possibility of a mate chipping in 50%) a manual 2006 M3 CS. The idea is to turn it into a track toy, keep it at his yard, and both of us use it as and when we like.

What would you guys do with the brakes? Standard are shit, so uprating is the only way? This is where i haven't a clue - need some advice desperately. AP's seem the daddy from reading the forums, but is there any others to consider? ie - do we really need the best?? Is there a product at 50% of the cost of AP's that would serve us well? And what do/should we change - fronts and rears, or just fronts? Also heard of some folk using Porsche calipers - any good? Any links to suppliers who would be happy to serve (discount ) and advise?

Any advice greatly appreciated. Cheers

[chicken]

+1 for AP's

- Tried and tested (so many people can't be wrong)
- Lots of info readily available via the interweb
- Product support from supplier is ace
- Resell value is good too.

Can't go wrong in my opinion.

[shimmy]

Ok guys could do with some advice and recommendations please

I have bought (with the very, very likely possibility of a mate chipping in 50%) a manual 2006 M3 CS. The idea is to turn it into a track toy, keep it at his yard, and both of us use it as and when we like.

What would you guys do with the brakes? Standard are shit, so uprating is the only way? This is where i haven't a clue - need some advice desperately. AP's seem the daddy from reading the forums, but is there any others to consider? ie - do we really need the best?? Is there a product at 50% of the cost of AP's that would serve us well? And what do/should we change - fronts and rears, or just fronts? Also heard of some folk using Porsche calipers - any good? Any links to suppliers who would be happy to serve (discount ) and advise?

Any advice greatly appreciated. Cheers

some guys fit k sport, alcon, and a few butchered sets of brembos.

dont waste time looking around, just by new or used set of APs with discs (or front PF discs) and put in Rs29 pads all round, and bradided lines

This will be as good as you will ever need. (optio for Rs14 or 15 front as well)

(Dont use AP front pads or Ferrodo Ds2500 on track ever)

[chicken]

(Dont use AP front pads or Ferrodo Ds2500 on track ever)

howcomes?

[Yanto_csl]

Also, email SamT on here for some perspectives on the Stormtrooper :thumbs:

[Barry C]

I have AP's and they are absolutely awesome but...it depends what your budget is for the over all car is. For example, if you are spending 5k on upgrades, I wouldn't blow 3k of your budget on AP's. Pagid RS29 pads, with race fluid and braided lines will perform pretty well, especially if you remove 200kgs of weight from the car!

One of the best mods I did on my last M3 track car was fitting proper bucket seats. I instantly improved my lap times because I wasn't sliding all over the seats and was able to really control the car on the limit.

Any way, AP's are great but depending on your budget there are other essential mods to consider.Good suspension, like KW V3 or clubsport for example and cups!

[shimmy]

howcomes?

coz they is shite......deposits at v high temps make discs feel warped

only isuse with APs is the crap pads they sell with them

[MCSL]

Thanks for replies so far - certainly gives me something to go on! Ideally could do with a full 'used' (but v.good condition) set-up. Anyone who has one to offer please feel free to contact me




There's a chap singing the praises of Stoptech brake kits on PistonHeads - supposed to be gvfm? Anyone tried or use them?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Thanks for replies so far - certainly gives me something to go on! Ideally could do with a full 'used' (but v.good condition) set-up. Anyone who has one to offer please feel free to contact me




There's a chap singing the praises of Stoptech brake kits on PistonHeads - supposed to be gvfm? Anyone tried or use them?

Who ??

[MCSL]

Who ??

take it they are shyte then?

[MCSL]

Mmmmm. with the CS wheels being 8" wide at the front - would this clear the AP calipers??

Just found this on Google....


Here we have a set of GENUINE BMW M3 CS alloys off my late 2005 car. They would still be on it, but the 8" front does not clear the AP Racing calipers I now have fitted, so I have bought a set of CSL wheels. Much confusion surrounds the difference between the CSL wheels and the CS. It is simple, the rears are identical (part No. 2 282 999) and the fronts are 8" wide on the CS (Part No 2 282 895) and 8.5" on the CSL. That is it!! They are the same material, and all made by BBS in Germany.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Mmmmm. with the CS wheels being 8" wide at the front - would this clear the AP calipers??

Just found this on Google....


Here we have a set of GENUINE BMW M3 CS alloys off my late 2005 car. They would still be on it, but the 8" front does not clear the AP Racing calipers I now have fitted, so I have bought a set of CSL wheels. Much confusion surrounds the difference between the CSL wheels and the CS. It is simple, the rears are identical (part No. 2 282 999) and the fronts are 8" wide on the CS (Part No 2 282 895) and 8.5" on the CSL. That is it!! They are the same material, and all made by BBS in Germany.

What does it matter CSL rims clear them :-D

[MCSL]

What does it matter CSL rims clear them :-D

Not going on a CSL dude. They going on mine (and me mates) 2006 CS. Which i believe has 8" fronts. So, i need to find some brakes/calipers that will slip under the 8" rim, or i wonder if a 'spacer' would resolve the issue? It's never bloody easy...

[shimmy]

1. If you are gonna track it you will fit 12-15mm front spacers so clearance will be fine

2. If its a track slag you will sell the CS rims and fit 18x 9,0 or 9.5 rims all round and cheaper trackday tyres so once again clearance wont be an issue.

3. Make sure you set ride height low coz when you cant catch the CSLs youll be stripping out evert spare 'oz'

[CraigMillwardCroft]

1. If you are gonna track it you will fit 12-15mm front spacers so clearance will be fine

2. If its a track slag you will sell the CS rims and fit 18x 9,0 or 9.5 rims all round and cheaper trackday tyres so once again clearance wont be an issue.

3. Make sure you set ride height low coz when you cant catch the CSLs youll be stripping out evert spare 'oz'

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