CSL rear window glass-- NLA?

[0836whimper]

Just cause I live in the States doesn't mean I agree with the mentality of pick ups or SUV's.

No worries Cossack, we are playing about. We just all happened to see it in real life the other day

[cossack]

No worries Cossack, we are playing about. We just all happened to see it in real life the other day

Trust me this doesn't affect me. I already have all the parts that are worthwhile doing. I'm on your guy's side to ramp up production. The market will price those who can't afford to play out. How many people could afford oem csl parts, when they can get an M3 for the price of just an airbox, and interior. I'm fully covered for any incident, or accident. So for me I'd like to see BMW continue production of the parts. It doesn't help anyone for them to stop. I see the CSL as being a real classic car in about 20 years. All BMW has to do is raise the price on the parts, I'm sure less guys across the pond will be buying them then.

[mick csl]

Oh really ?
Would really like to see your revised opinion if you end up with a metal roof or simple M3 bumper :-D

you have right Alex what about our roofs?, what if the clear coat peels off end they can't relacker it ?:banghead:.

[chrisburns]

FFS I go out for a few hours and come back to this shit fest :hahaha:

Cossack, dont take this the wrong way but you come across quite aggressively in a lot of your posts on this thread.

I personally think BMW have let all CSL owners down quite badly by permitting the sale of CSL specific parts to non owners full stop. In fact the more i think about it - its outragous :banghead:

[NZ_M3]

The issue here really isn't about whether you can afford it or not - that's moot.

If CSL parts are easy to come by and as Yanto have pointed out -it's a free market and as Cossack have said easily obtainable from the USA - then why aren't there group buys every week from the USA for CSL parts from BMW NA - my suspicion is BMW NA would say you can't order it.

I know some parts are easy to come by and some aren't as easy, if there's a will there's always a way - heck GTS parts have been flowing to the USA for a while now, just not widely known how it is done.

I have no issues if people wanting legitimate parts buying a wreck or mint car and stripping it just for parts (it's done everyday in this world) - at least then you own a CSL and that means you are entitled to "Support" from BMW AG.

The point here is legitimate owners are being deprived of the ability for this support as BMW AG never anticipated majority of parts going to Countries that they never imported to - this is not elitism, it's an owner asking legitimately why can this happen in the first place.

I am mindful that you will never stop those wanting parts to be able to get them, but when BMW AG is selling truck loads to overseas, something's screwed up with their system. And as many have pointed out, why would they care - other than perhaps the possibility of there being legal liability if somebody gets killed having one of those carbon roof installed on a car that didn't destine to have one.


FYI - As Yanto pointed out, if there are enough orders, BMW will sometimes reproduce parts - so who here wants to put up some money :hahaha: I was told an owner of an E34 M5 once waited 14 months for BMW to reproduce a part ... so it does happen :hahaha:

FYI 2 - I've been waiting 7 months now for a particular part also on the CSL ... I wonder if I'll beat the 14 months record held by the E34 M5 owner above ....

[mattCSLnut]

No worries Cossack, we are playing about. We just all happened to see it in real life the other day

We sure did :-D I reckon BMW would have SOLD shed load of these Down Under :beer: for the sophisticated Australians :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lo2MAzSHVY

[mattCSLnut]

Not an E46 M3 but couldn't resist.

Well here's an E46 M3 variant the Uh!mericans :wink: denied for the rest of us :banghead:

[NZ_M3]

We sure did :-D I reckon BMW would have SOLD shed load of these Down Under :beer: for the sophisticated Australians :-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lo2MAzSHVY

No need the Aussies have it sorted :finga:

http://www.caradvice.com.au/17241/applebys-m5-ute-at-deni-muster/

[Obioban]

Amusingly, I'll be building an e46 M3 touring for my fiancé starting in about 6 months

Edit: though maybe I shouldn't since bmw NA didn't deem us deserving of an e46 m3 touring. Might offend someone.

[cossack]

FFS I go out for a few hours and come back to this shit fest :hahaha:

Cossack, dont take this the wrong way but you come across quite aggressively in a lot of your posts on this thread.

I personally think BMW have let all CSL owners down quite badly by permitting the sale of CSL specific parts to non owners full stop. In fact the more i think about it - its outragous :banghead:

I've been nothing but on the defensive since some people are ignorant to BMW's inability to import the real CSL. I've never once claimed to have a real csl I always tell people it's a replica if they ask if its real. There aren't many options for us, unlike some people at least there are some of us who want to stay true to what we yanks believe we should have gotten which was the real CSL. Try to put yourself in our shoes, we obviously love the CSL so much that we have to replicate it. So in a matter of sense it's a matter of flattery. In any case BMW should produce more parts, not because some guys from the US may buy them. But rather since even within the company core principe the m3 CSL is the culmination of all M3's and BMW at its best. I don't want to take away from the pile of parts, nor would any of my purchases have made any significant difference in the stockpile. Also at the time I purchased most of my parts, BMW was still under obligation to keep producing parts. Just to appease you CSL gods I feel like I'd have to buy a salvaged/wrecked CSL in order to appease you guys for a fn vin number.

I actually know a company that is importing gts parts into the US it's not that hard to find guys. It's still an on going issue, when there's a will there's a way. The GTS front lip is 6,000 usd if anyone wants one.

Last serious question, what is a real length of time that BMW should produce or manufacture spare parts for the CSL. Lets say you were in power to make that dcision what would be the proper length of time or part to car ratio.

[NZ_M3]

Have just been in contact with the most important parts manager for BMW Oceania area and he knows all about the NLA parts and how it works - had a good chat to him about it all and what goes on with it.

I now know what's happening with this ... but keeping this a secret so the Yanks don't find out :-D

[Obioban]

Have just been in contact with the most important parts manager for BMW Oceania area and he knows all about the NLA parts and how it works - had a good chat to him about it all and what goes on with it.

I now know what's happening with this ... but keeping this a secret so the Yanks don't find out :-D

That'll last-- maybe even weeks!

[NZ_M3]

That'll last-- maybe even weeks!

haha sarcasm mate .... I'll post more about it when I've got the list back

But safe to say 'everything' is still available (does not mean in stock) ... it just depends on how patient you are.

[Obioban]

haha sarcasm mate .... I'll post more about it when I've got the list back

But safe to say 'everything' is still available (does not mean in stock) ... it just depends on how patient you are.

Well then, everybody wins? As in, sounds like they're making parts to order, so csl owners and M3 owners alike can partake so long as they're willing to pay/wait?

[NZ_M3]

Well then, everybody wins? As in, sounds like they're making parts to order, so csl owners and M3 owners alike can partake so long as they're willing to pay/wait?

Not exactly. Suffice to say it'll be more difficult for non owners to get parts however :supz: