Looking for a CSL....

[Das Chin]

agree on condition and history 100%.

but 100k mikes on mway is a lot less stress on components than a car that has done 50k but with most of that on track.

1 track mile = 15 road miles.

major bmw components should not break if well looked after and serviced properly unless there is an underlying issue or had a hard life.

[CraigMillwardCroft]

You will know when you have found the right one :thumbs:

[Mark CSL]

but 100k mikes on mway is a lot less stress on components than a car that has done 50k but with most of that on track.

1 track mile = 15 road miles.

major bmw components should not break if well looked after and serviced properly unless there is an underlying issue or had a hard life.

I agree track work is harder than road miles

I am not sure about the components
My car had done 54,000 when the engine went and it had only done motorway miles


Maybe i know the CSL too well and pick up on failing components
when others just drive there cars.

So all these parts mean my csl
is not a good car with all the new parts as it must have had a hard life ?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

I agree track work is harder than road miles

I am not sure about the components
My car had done 54,000 when the engine went and it had only done motorway miles


Maybe i know the CSL too well and pick up on failing components
when others just drive there cars.

So all these parts mean my csl
is not a good car with all the new parts as it must have had a hard life ?

Just been better looked after and enjoyed :thumbs:

[Mark CSL]

The way i look at is if its not right get it looked at also i want my CSL as good as the day it was made and if the parts were not faulty bmw would not have sorted them after all thats why i pay for warranty

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[martin770]

Lovin the 911 turbo :drool:
Oh go on then lets swap :hahaha:

[Das Chin]

I agree track work is harder than road miles

I am not sure about the components
My car had done 54,000 when the engine went and it had only done motorway miles


Maybe i know the CSL too well and pick up on failing components
when others just drive there cars.

So all these parts mean my csl
is not a good car with all the new parts as it must have had a hard life ?

no its just means you can slap a £34k price tag on it mark :smokin:

I know you have a good relationship with local BMW dealer and good luck to you.

BMW engines should not let go at 54k but then I guess some component has failed and that is that.

tbh that 120k miler at 22k looks like a great car so if you are in the market for one I would go for it.

if not then wait until the new year. Mintos turbo is going to be better in winter than a CSL as it has 4wd. get some winter tyres on it and it will be awesome. I have driven a few and they are bonkers fast but just a bit dull and no engaging. prefer the NA RWD versions such as the GT3s and RSs.

[Mike RT4]

BMW engines should not let go at 54k but then I guess some component has failed and that is that.

My engine has had a rebuild as well at a similar mileage - Gareth advised me this is caused by track use. Basically because the CSLs can generate such high Gs on the Cup tyres, the oil (if not kept topped to the absolute max) can surge in a similar way that the fuel pumps do. Obviously this wears the oil pump out over a period of time if it happens repeatedly. Apparently mine had "picked up" and was a bit noisy, so everything was changed before a catastrophic failure occurred. The bill was over £7k, as when it was stripped it was discovered that there was quite a few parts that were showing wear because of the this.

Accordingly, any cars used on track that Gareth takes care of, he makes sure they have a little bit more oil in than normal .

[Mark CSL]

The evos are bad for this but does the csl not have 2 oil pickups

[Jon8710]

My engine has had a rebuild as well at a similar mileage - Gareth advised me this is caused by track use. Basically because the CSLs can generate such high Gs on the Cup tyres, the oil (if not kept topped to the absolute max) can surge in a similar way that the fuel pumps do. Obviously this wears the oil pump out over a period of time if it happens repeatedly. Apparently mine had "picked up" and was a bit noisy, so everything was changed before a catastrophic failure occurred. The bill was over £7k, as when it was stripped it was discovered that there was quite a few parts that were showing wear because of the this.

Accordingly, any cars used on track that Gareth takes care of, he makes sure they have a little bit more oil in than normal .

in other words if they have been driven really hard with fast cornering then the internals of the engine may have been exposed to running dry therefor driving the cars really hard on the track or road does have an effect on the parts and would suggest that cars with new engines have had a harder life.

all i know is the people i know who track them alot have all had to have major mechanical parts replaced.

take what you will from that.

[shimmy]

in other words if they have been driven really hard with fast cornering then the internals of the engine may have been exposed to running dry therefor driving the cars really hard on the track or road does have an effect on the parts and would suggest that cars with new engines have had a harder life.

all i know is the people i know who track them alot have all had to have major mechanical parts replaced.

take what you will from that.

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[Mark CSL]

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Bit harsh shimmy

You did not read my post then my car was never tracked and needed an engine so why did my car need an engine

Bad manufacture if it was oil the big ends and shells would have been worn out they were like new :whistle:

[Jon8710]

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knew that would rattle some cages :wink:

[shimmy]

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[billyboysm3]

I think Mikes car had a brand new engine before my old man got hold of it and stuck that stupid rear spoiler on it, under 18k miles.