CSL Futures Market...

[rstoughy]

Planning on keeping mine, in fact if my contract hadn't finished a few months ago I'd have a 2nd one by now but had to be sensible (for a bit) :whistle:

[billyboysm3]

Neither Is Billy's :smokin:

:wanker:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Neither Is Billy's :smokin:

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[titan]

As always, the reasons for keeping/selling are personal to the individual.

Since you asked, the reason I'm selling my CSL is pretty simple. I just don't use it.

I've had a few track/toy cars over the years and I ended up with a CSL and GT2RS. I started a new company, have had zero time to do trackdays so both cars have ended up SORN and garaged.

I appreciate that most of you love your CSLs so take this next comment with a pinch of salt - its not the sort of car I could take out at the weekend and get enjoyment from. yes its very capable etc etc but in reality, going for a "weekend blast" its very little different from most other hothatch/M3/etc. It has little to no appeal for me in that department.

So I'm selling the CSL to free up the garage for an Atom. I don't think anyone will disagree that taking out an atom for a "weekend blast" is anything like the norm, so there's the difference.

When I want to do a saloon car trackday, or go to the 'ring, there's the porker for that.

[Bounce]

Neither Is Billy's :smokin:

:-D

[Pip1968]

Every so often I think about getting rid of her but things against are as follows:-

1. I want to replace her with a 997 GT3 RS and that means another £40,000 on top and will sit for the most part in the garage.
2. Additional money could be better spent on a garage rebuild (always a little bigger).
3. I may miss her even though I have never really fallen in love with what I deem to be basically an 'automatic' car.
4. I am still at ~39,000 or so miles so warranty is still cheap but then I have never really claimed (just two springs in five years ie £3,000).
5. I already have a 996 GT3 so would the step up being tangible if I had a 997 GT3 RS too.... MkII maybe (3.8 c/w centre locks).
6. I have loads of spare wheels and bits and bobs to get rid of so a bit of an effort.
7. All my cars (Mini GP as a run about) are bought and paid for so not a terrible financial strain and I go by the premise that you only ever lose on a car when you sell (no sale=no loss!).
8. If I sell and regret I do not really want to search high and low for another.

So in short mine is a keeper but if I come across a spare £40,000 I may get rid and get the GT3 RS.

Pip

[Steve B]

Some of you have some very very nice other cars.... My car owes me the equivalent to an entire years wages... :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:


Steve

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Every so often I think about getting rid of her but things against are as follows:-

1. I want to replace her with a 997 GT3 RS and that means another £40,000 on top and will sit for the most part in the garage.
2. Additional money could be better spent on a garage rebuild (always a little bigger).
3. I may miss her even though I have never really fallen in love with what I deem to be basically an 'automatic' car.
4. I am still at ~39,000 or so miles so warranty is still cheap but then I have never really claimed (just two springs in five years ie £3,000).
5. I already have a 996 GT3 so would the step up being tangible if I had a 997 GT3 RS too.... MkII maybe (3.8 c/w centre locks).
6. I have loads of spare wheels and bits and bobs to get rid of so a bit of an effort.
7. All my cars (Mini GP as a run about) are bought and paid for so not a terrible financial strain and I go by the premise that you only ever lose on a car when you sell (no sale=no loss!).
8. If I sell and regret I do not really want to search high and low for another.

So in short mine is a keeper but if I come across a spare £40,000 I may get rid and get the GT3 RS.

Pip

+1 would only get rid to get 997 GT3 RS :-D

[northernjim]

I have cars as investments and the CSL is not one of them.

The Renault 5...... :blalalala:

[shimmy]

The Renault 5...... :blalalala:

best investment you can buy is an 'L'

[3wheels3]

After 8 years mine will probably be going but CSL is such a perfect car it'll be with regret no doubt

[titan]

Every so often I think about getting rid of her but things against are as follows:-

1. I want to replace her with a 997 GT3 RS and that means another £40,000 on top and will sit for the most part in the garage.
2. Additional money could be better spent on a garage rebuild (always a little bigger).
3. I may miss her even though I have never really fallen in love with what I deem to be basically an 'automatic' car.
4. I am still at ~39,000 or so miles so warranty is still cheap but then I have never really claimed (just two springs in five years ie £3,000).
5. I already have a 996 GT3 so would the step up being tangible if I had a 997 GT3 RS too.... MkII maybe (3.8 c/w centre locks).
6. I have loads of spare wheels and bits and bobs to get rid of so a bit of an effort.
7. All my cars (Mini GP as a run about) are bought and paid for so not a terrible financial strain and I go by the premise that you only ever lose on a car when you sell (no sale=no loss!).
8. If I sell and regret I do not really want to search high and low for another.

So in short mine is a keeper but if I come across a spare £40,000 I may get rid and get the GT3 RS.

Pip

In recent times I've come to question taking "cars of value" on the track. By value, I mean something that has nice bodywork, show-and-shine etc. CSL, GT3 RS you name it. Taking them on track just ruins them slowly. Even a minor spin into gravel can hurt the paintwork and a wheel finish.

A 997 GT3 RS is not much quicker around a typical UK track if we're being honest. Somewhere I've got a vbox trace comparing the CSL to the GT2RS. Only real difference is in the straight, otherwise you're talking about seconds here and there which lets face it, is not what trackdays are about.

The best fun my brother and I had on track was with the cheapest cars that you didn't care too much about.

So, that's all track related stuff. Are you going to drive your GT3 RS on the roads ? Probably not (much). So as you say, they become depreciating garage queens that have the potential to hurt your wallet on track.

Oh and FWIW there are plenty who prefer the 996 over the 997.

The other thing - CSLs are now 10 years old. How long will it be before their performance edge is completely obsoleted, or the parts become unobtainable etc.......

[shimmy]

Your not the most sympathetic driver I've met

[Bounce]

Your not the most sympathetic driver I've met

That would be me then.:hahaha:

[s.mac]

I think about selling all the time but I would only blow the cash... It's in storage on sorn, if it was losing money then I would sell but for now I'm happy to hold on to it