Anyone gone from CSL to 1M?

[MCSL]

i bought a 1m last November to go with the CSL. Firstly, yes it's a very different car to the CSL - much more refined and relaxed drive than the cesil. I'd say it's definitely quicker too - overtaking function on boost is a giggle. The CSL has the more special (sense of occasion) about it - it's only the GT3 (i had a 997.2 3.8GT3) that betters the CSL for this in my experience. Still not sure on the handling of the 1m - i had a good rip in it the other week when the roads were dry and the outside temp was at 10degrees, and the car felt good, but still doesn't give you the feedback and confidence that the CSL gives. The 1m is more GT2 than GT3 - take your eyes of the ball and get too cocky with it and it'll throw you through a hedge, whereas the GT3 / CSL feels like it it'll look after you.... more :-D

The 1m i could use everyday, the CSL i couldn't. The CSL however is the one i'd pick if going for a 'special' drive.

Values of the 1m have been (and still are) very strong and consistent, so buy it and try it, and if you don't like, you can sell without losing your shirt.



re gearbox terryb - i actually find the box very very good in the 1m. Much better than an e46 M3 manual. However, the best manual box i've had was on the GT3 - now that's a proper mechanical cog changer!!

[Equinox_csl]

has gareth still got his F40? now that is a legend of a car!

I was out in it with him a few months ago.....:notworthy:

[Das Chin]

i was in a 700bhp r33 gtr years ago at a ring trip with Gareth in the f40 both cars doing over 200mph on the auotbahn.

what a car. Fave of all time. The sound. The sound of that Ferrari.

[Equinox_csl]

i was in a 700bhp r33 gtr years ago at a ring trip with Gareth in the f40 both cars doing over 200mph on the auotbahn.

what a car. Fave of all time. The sound. The sound of that Ferrari.

Funny you mention it but ive heard the story from him, hes only down the road from me (literally a couple of miles) and every now and again i hear a car go down the main road (we are just off it down a lane) and I know its the F40 because it sounds so angry if its off throttle.

[Mike RT4]

i was in a 700bhp r33 gtr years ago at a ring trip with Gareth in the f40 both cars doing over 200mph on the auotbahn.

what a car. Fave of all time. The sound. The sound of that Ferrari.

I was there that time in my Escort . He took me and my other half for a lap around the 'ring :supz:.



This was my other half's lap. When I had my lap, we hit 177mph (GPS) .

[Equinox_csl]

Sorry guys i keep taking this very off topic. My singular trip in the 40 the most memorable automotive experience ive ever had, i could talk about it all day, I love seeing Gareth and just talking cars, he can talk about stuff others dream of. Last time was about driving the SVA imports time attack car with its new DRS and flat shift system, having a problem so not testing it and then going out an coming 2nd in its first event having had no practice, that and talking about max speed runs in cars here and there and how easy it is to do...!!

[Loaded_csl]

I personally found the 1M very boring.
My Z4 is certainly more interesting, faster and with less turbo lag (see DCT gearbox).
The Z4 is very loud in comparison too. The 1M has no noise.
2nd gear 130km/h with the 1M.
What were they thinking ?
I think 3rd gear can do 200km/h

Personally i love mine.

Alex it is a new car which has more to give in an experienced driver. You must look forward to new models and forget the olds... Like you did with your M5!

no offense but only a fool would change from csl to 1m.

Two different cars, same target. Having FUN!

[alexk]

Personally i love mine.
Alex it is a new car which has more to give in an experienced driver. You must look forward to new models and forget the olds... Like you did with your M5!

Well my Z4 is not exactly old compared to it... and it's a much better car for an experienced driver.
Better chassis, better performance (7 speed gearbox), better feeling, better sound etc.

I struggle to see what the 1M is really.
An overpriced 135i maybe.
Standard interior, looks and is cheap, ride height of a school bus, extremely long ratio in gears, turbo lag and at least in Switzerland all of them are owned by 20-25 year olds.
Happy that you enjoy yours though.

I don't see the comparison with the M5.
The one is a joke and the other is a weapon.
The M5 even laps 10 secs faster than it at the Ring :blalalala:

[cslsuperfan]

Well my Z4 is not exactly old compared to it... and it's a much better car for an experienced driver.
Better chassis, better performance (7 speed gearbox), better feeling, better sound etc.

I struggle to see what the 1M is really.
An overpriced 135i maybe.
Standard interior, looks and is cheap, ride height of a school bus, extremely long ratio in gears, turbo lag and at least in Switzerland all of them are owned by 20-25 year olds.
Happy that you enjoy yours though.

I don't see the comparison with the M5.
The one is a joke and the other is a weapon.
The M5 even laps 10 secs faster than it at the Ring :blalalala:

Fuckin' A Alex!!!!!! M5 is the car for real men......1M well ....

remember Clarkson reference to boxster owners not having the gonads to buy a 911 there's definitely a 1m v M3 connection

[Chrisc]

Fuckin' A Alex!!!!!! M5 is the car for real men......1M well ....

remember Clarkson reference to boxster owners not having the gonads to buy a 911 there's definitely a 1m v M3 connection

Surprised not many like the 1M. Personally for 40k still, and it just being a normal 1 series inside, well with some nicer stitching :hahaha: i could not do it. Plus the front i just love, but the rear quarter just looks squished for some reason.
Excellent cars, well with the suspension and diff from the 92 M3 its going to be good. But need to drive a remapped one to see how able the engine is. If its the same as the 135/335 then the lag is still not the best. Better than a lot of other blown engines, but personally prefer the raw power of the CSL.

Plus when the M2 comes out, then think the prices will start dropping. Not massively, but certainly bring them down to 30k for a low ish miler.

[billyboysm3]

The CSL is staying just bought some new 19 inch cups, rims are getting refurbed, RS29 rears from Martin & a fortune on all new badges & kick plates.

[Chrisc]

The CSL is staying just bought some new 19 inch cups, rims are getting refurbed, RS29 rears from Martin & a fortune on all new badges & kick plates.

I've just got kick plates and the side grill badges, and well worth doing. Well with the other god knows how many other thing I've bought lol

[terryb]

Guys, I can't believe this thread has degenerated into talking about hairdressers cars.... Z4s :blalalala:

The 1M is a great car, just not as good an all rounder as an E92 M3 which is what I changed mine for as it is my daily.

The CSL is more hardcore than the 1M no doubt, but it wouldn't see which way the 1M went on a straight road - track is different of course. But then I changed the CSL after a year for a GT3 which I have still after 5 years.

So what have we learned here....

1M's are fast as fook (especially remapped) and good fun
E92s are the best all rounder money can buy
CSLs are awesome :supz:
GT3s are even more awesome :finga:

And Z4s are for hairdressers :gayfight:


I think this concludes the topic :beer:

[shimmy]

Guys, I can't believe this thread has degenerated into talking about hairdressers cars.... Z4s :blalalala:

The 1M is a great car, just not as good an all rounder as an E92 M3 which is what I changed mine for as it is my daily.

The CSL is more hardcore than the 1M no doubt, but it wouldn't see which way the 1M went on a straight road - track is different of course. But then I changed the CSL after a year for a GT3 which I have still after 5 years.

So what have we learned here....

1M's are fast as fook (especially remapped) and good fun
E92s are the best all rounder money can buy
CSLs are awesome :supz:
GT3s are even more awesome :finga:

And Z4s are for hairdressers :gayfight:


I think this concludes the topic :beer:

What about M135i.............:whistle:

[billyboysm3]

M135 run through the company with a few trackdays chucked in its perfect