Whose idea was it to fit cups OMG

[J2LTB]

So tonight after hours of winter refurbing. I drove cesil out of the warm garage and down to the local petrol station.

What the ????????? Cups are lethal ! A gritter was coming the other way so i took avoiding measures. I was shocked at the lack of grip and traction. I checked the pressures and set to 2.4bar 35 psi.

Think ill wait till its abit warmer and reserve final judgement. PSS next im thinking :gayfight:

[shimmy]

So tonight after hours of winter refurbing. I drove cesil out of the warm garage and down to the local petrol station.

What the ????????? Cups are lethal ! A gritter was coming the other way so i took avoiding measures. I was shocked at the lack of grip and traction. I checked the pressures and set to 2.4bar 35 psi.

Think ill wait till its abit warmer and reserve final judgement. PSS next im thinking :gayfight:

Gayer............:hahaha:

[Pooky]

MTFU

[J2LTB]

Man up lol. I expected that ! Just shocked at the change between vredestein ultrac sessanta's. It's like driving on ice in the dry !

[Neil M]

The clue was the gritter:

[sjb]

Also maybe the pressure is a little high? Shimmy advised me around 30-32 HOT for the road...

[J2LTB]

The clue was the gritter:

I don't have the sticker !!!! That's first time I've paid attention to it as never ran cups before !

As regards tyre pressures I checked the door sticker. Says 2.4 bar all round.
So do most people run slightly less then ?

[Rick H]

If Cups are used outside recommended conditions, is insurance negated?

[glendog74]

If Cups are used outside recommended conditions, is insurance negated?

They are an OEM supplied road legal tyre so I would think not.

[J2LTB]

If Cups are used outside recommended conditions, is insurance negated?

Interesting point. But that would apply to most cars as they have summer tyres fitted. That's the way England could go if insurers insist on winter tyres in these temperatures.

Bring on the summer

[Neil M]

If Cups are used outside recommended conditions, is insurance negated?

Correct, that's the sole purpose of the sticker is as an advisory notice, if you have an accident through not adhering to the stipulated conditions of use, you're effectively up the Swanee!
You have been Warned, it's a get out of jail card for the insurance companies.

So many were removed during the course of initial PDI's (big Dealer mistake). Others have been removed during changes in ownership etc.
Some owners are probable unaware of its existence, if you don't have one - then I would advise you to get one, Mark CSL has some reproductions available. :-D

[sjb]

I don't have the sticker !!!! That's first time I've paid attention to it as never ran cups before !

As regards tyre pressures I checked the door sticker. Says 2.4 bar all round.
So do most people run slightly less then ?

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/csl-register/csl-register-main-discussion-centre/436535-cups-tyre-pressure

[alexk]

Correct, that's the sole purpose of the sticker is as an advisory notice, if you have an accident through not adhering to the stipulated conditions of use, you're effectively up the Swanee!
You have been Warned, it's a get out of jail card for the insurance companies.

So many were removed during the course of initial PDI's (big Dealer mistake). Others have been removed during changes in ownership etc.
Some owners are probable unaware of its existence, if you don't have one - then I would advise you to get one, Mark CSL has some reproductions available. :-D

Neil why do you say that the sticker is good to have ?

[shimmy]

Correct, that's the sole purpose of the sticker is as an advisory notice, if you have an accident through not adhering to the stipulated conditions of use, you're effectively up the Swanee!
You have been Warned, it's a get out of jail card for the insurance companies.
:-D

Neil The advisory is for BMW benefit and has nothiing to do with Dvla or insurance cover. it is DoT and E marked and legal on the road no matter where and when you drive with them. Even legal in Germany 12 months a year.

[Neil M]

Neil why do you say that the sticker is good to have ?

Quite simply, because the sticker is a warning about the use of the Michelin Cup Tyre issued by the vehicle manufacturer BMW, advising/informing the owner as to the conditions/limitations of their use, whoever that may be.
To knowing remove a warning sticker is irresponsible, it was put there for a specific purpose, not as a piece of ornamentation or decoration. :whistle: