Autoexpess:BMW M235i vs BMW M3 CSL video

[MKoop]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/2-series/86645/bmw-m235i-vs-bmw-m3-csl-video-track-battle

[Rick H]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/2-s...o-track-battle

Excellant spot - thanks for this.

The times are the same, but the experience is totally different. He seemed disinterested in the 235 - as if it was something he had to do rather than wanted to do. It didn't get under his skin like the CSL.

Nice the see CSLs being quoted at £30-35k, last year it was £25-30k

[LeinsCSL]

Nice find Shane :thumbs:

[Trawler]

Nice. Thought he over played the brakes on the csl.

M235 nice daily drive, but csl something special. Not bad for a car coming up to its 11th birthday.

[Neil M]

Well thanks for that, my pension is sorted! :thumbs:
I wonder will they put it up against the M235i 'Racing' when that eventually comes along? Would be interesting to see the comparisons.

[Clubber]

Poor Result

I am quite disappointed actually. It is either the turbo tech improved massively over the years or he wasn't pushing the CSL (although it looked like he did)

I mean, if a less powerful (significantly), less track focused, manual shifting, heavier half bred M car can match the hardcore values of the CSL then this is a disaster outcome...

[shimmy]

Not sure how the M135 compares to the M235 but at Bedford on Saturday three of us will be running the M135 timed to compare against my cSL times, which will be real world comparison, no back handers!

[northernjim]

I am quite disappointed actually. It is either the turbo tech improved massively over the years or he wasn't pushing the CSL (although it looked like he did)

I mean, if a less powerful (significantly), less track focused, manual shifting, heavier half bred M car can match the hardcore values of the CSL then this is a disaster outcome...

M235 had nice new michelin supersport tyres on it - the csl was not on cup's....

[shimmy]

M235 had nice new michelin supersport tyres on it - the csl was not on cup's....

Even so what a load of old bollox......."I'm gonna be careful on the brakes"

Betya BMw are happy and got their money's worth

[cslsuperfan]

Even so what a load of old bollox......."I'm gonna be careful on the brakes"

Betya BMw are happy and got their money's worth

Agreed.... "being careful with the brakes, she's an old girl" ....TWAT

[mattCSLnut]

According to the "AutoExpress" jernos, the M3 CSL was launched in 2004 ?! :clown:
This must make all of our Cecils Pre production cars :thumbs: ... and even more special :supz:

[Levente]

no cups? ooookay...

[dave wilkinson]

Lighten up, you all sound like women :bigcry:
Personally thought it was a good video. :beer:

[Rick H]

Agreed.... "being careful with the brakes, she's an old girl" ....TWAT

161 BMW had been ragged for all of its 20k+ miles so would hardly be troubled here.

The time is a moot point, regarding the CSL he uses the word "beautiful" 5 or 6 times and the "love" word, he's totally engrossed in the experience and then talks about the investment potential.

He makes the point at the end that for everyday use the 235 is a better option, but it's such an obvious conclusion I can't believe he was paid to state it.

[0836whimper]

That's engine noise...that's induction noise :smt055 No need for a stereo input there.

Astonishing engine, fantastic chassis, appreciating asset. An absolute joy to lap in.

What's not to like ? (I don't really care if it's not the fastest in 2014).

The M235i is just 'nice'....which is code for dull.