Which 997

[Matt21]

My father is looking to get in a 997 Turbo, ideally one with low depreciation. Options as follows:

Gen 1 manual - rare, lowest depreciation, but for a man in his 60s is the manual too much hard work to use daily?

Gen 1 tip - less rare, cheaper, will probably lose more money. Is the gearbox dreadful?

Gen 2 PDK - more expensive, no Metzler engine, awesome box, highest depreciation I would guess

We have heard feedback that the manual doesn't suit a turbo. What are your thoughts?

[Touring_csl]

Gen 1 Tip box is very poor compared to PDK - only buy a Gen 1 Tip if you've got budget constraints

Gen 2 PDK cars have already suffered a large chunk of depreciation so may not be the depreciation pit you anticipate

Gen 1 manual would be my choice of the 3 cars you've listed

[nw99]

Gen 1 manual would be my choice , but look out for over revs .

[petery]

Get a GTS with PDK, probably the best all round porsche ever made, and they will continue to hold their value as well as any of them.

i think it was a much better car than the turbo PDK i drove and real world road performance is probably not that much difference

[plumber vic]

Are u investing or driving ?

[Matt21]

63 year old man who will keep for probably 3 years doing max of 20,000 miles. No track days. Will be used sympathetically.

Goal is to minimise deprecation.

[PeteGray]

Gen 1 manual would be my choice , but look out for over revs .

I'm not sure if over revs is actually a real issue as it's only a concern if you plan on putting a Porsche warranty on a car, under 10 years old, which does not already have a Porsche warranty.

The test could also tell you if the car has been held at very high revs for a long period of time which would be useful, however, we do not require this information from any other cars (all of which could produce it) which suggests this is one of those things given life by the internet.

When having my last service at Porsche Leicester this subject came up sort of by accident. I went onto ask them about it and the chap their quietly described it as a non issue.

As to the question; a manual Mezger engined turbo would appear a safe bet based upon what's happening in today's market.

[MisterCorn]

I have heard great things about the GTS. I would test drive a GTS and a 997.1 manual turbo then decide.

MC

[Matt21]

I'm liking the GTS idea.

Off to see one on Friday. A 2012 GTS carrera 4 PDK

[Yanto_csl]

GTS , c2, pdk.

Black / alcantara

Perfect.

[Matt21]

Do you guys reckon the GTS will hold its value well? Seems to have been around £60k for a while now.

C2 or C4 is next question!

[petery]

It was classed as the best 997 after the Gt3s so I think it should stick around the 50-60k for a while yet and it's never going to drop loads.

I'd always go with the c2 but I'd drive both and see which you think is best for your use.

[nw942]

I was looking at a GTS earlier this year. Having read the various forums, it seemed to me as though the best specification for future value would be: C2, manual, LSD and bucket seats.

[MisterCorn]

I wouldn't want to say what the value of any of these would be like in 2-3 years. With prices going up as they are they could be higher, if the bubble has burst they could be a whole lot less. Personally I don't think the bursting of the bubble is too far away.

MC

[j88 csl]

Sorry to drag it back to over revs but from my understanding this information is pretty important especially if the car in question has spent any time on track. A missed downshift being the cause. At worst it will cause a valve to hit a piston which is obviously instant but less obvious would be a stretched timing chain that will then cause damage further down the line. The key is to see on the over rev readout the last time it occurred. If it was within 50 hours then potential damage can still be lurking

911 virgin explain it in more detail here-

http://www.911virgin.com/porsche/rev-range-information/

I took this info on board and had my 911 checked independently by Porsche when i bought it from an Indie dealer in March.