M4 vs CSL

[Yanto_csl]

Pilot super sports


Also 11 years is pretty impressive, but Horst gets into the cars using his Zimmer frame now. :blalalala:

Great vid.

Shane, you got a new motor you wanna tell us abt ???:smokin:

[JB_CSL]

I took both of my cars out to the track to see what was what when it comes to straight line speed and there was an M4 out there on the day as well.

Its pretty close, you just cant compete with the torque they generate down low with the turbo's with a rolling start they just have the ability to pull away then keep it growing slowly. My 335i walks on the CSL with e30 and the JB4 in it.

That said coming into the corners with less weight and much better brakes the CSL is the more complete unit. I mean can you really beat the noise!

[shane@mbtech]

Great vid.

Shane, you got a new motor you wanna tell us abt ???:smokin:

Its not as interesting as the CSL Ian:beer:

[empower]

Dumb video just for marketing.
Compare the m3 CSL to the Porsche 911's of its era.
Then have the balls to compare the m4 to the Porsche 911's of this era.

[Trawler]

Dumb video just for marketing.
Compare the m3 CSL to the Porsche 911's of its era.
Then have the balls to compare the m4 to the Porsche 911's of this era.

Csl beat 996gt3 in many reviews. :thumbs: Would be interesting to see how M4 would stack up against latest gr3. I think we know the answer.

[Trawler]

Csl beat 996gt3 in many reviews. :thumbs: Would be interesting to see how M4 would stack up against latest gr3. I think we know the answer.

Bigger boot, 4 seats, etc & the M4 wins.

[Loaded_csl]

M4 CSL? Update?

Just saw that. I believe BMW guys in Munich have started to destroy themselves and company's reputation.

Dislike.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1167857

[alexk]

Just saw that. I believe BMW guys in Munich have started to destroy themselves and company's reputation.

Dislike.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1167857

What do you mean ?

[cslsuperfan]

M4vCSLvGT3/RS

The vid is a bit of fun, nothing more.

The die hard M4 nut was willing to accept the raw experience of the CSL and did give it some praise....in the end.

I remember seeing the RS (Focus 2007 shape) Club pitch up @ the ring for some tourist laps. No one batted a eye as they all breathed fire and disappeared up the circuit.

Couple of hours later the RS500 Cosworth UK club pitched up and everyone wanted to get a pic and have a chat to the owners.

M4vCSL all over. :smokin:

[select]

Just saw that. I believe BMW guys in Munich have started to destroy themselves and company's reputation.

Dislike.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1167857

I think the M4 CSL, if it even materialises, will not be in the same prize range as the M3 CSL/GTS. From what i've gathered the upcoming GTS will be around the same price as the last GTS but the CSL will cost quite a bit more.

I am curious to see what BMW does with the CSL moniker in the future.
From what i see they are using it as a means of testing out experimental stuff (hybrid, kers etc).

The vid is a bit of fun, nothing more.

The die hard M4 nut was willing to accept the raw experience of the CSL and did give it some praise....in the end.

Someone had to play the "M4 Nut", else their "storyline" wouldn't have worked. Probably decided with a game of tic-tac-toe :hahaha:

[Loaded_csl]

What do you mean ?

I mean Alex that BMW have losted a little bit with the marketing and sale..and for that reasons have started to make car which in my opinion are useless (like the M4 CSL) and the only thing that they care for is profit. They forget driver's pleasure etc. I belong with those who admit that BMW stopped in the E46 series. I didn't like the M4. Of course it has to do with the taste but..i can't find a reason to make a new platform and name it M4. I would prefer an F80 M3 coupe and sedan version than this ugly M4. Again, i only speak for myself but after a long conversations with other guys who own M3 E92, GTS and M3 e46s they said me that the conclusion after they bought the M4 was to sell it and go buck to an E92 M3.

And don't forget that the badge 'CSL' sells more that any other badge in BMW past and recent history. Even more that the 'GTS'..

[empower]

Just saw that. I believe BMW guys in Munich have started to destroy themselves and company's reputation.

Dislike.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1167857

Way too confusing these days with so many 'Motorsport' models. Taking the panache out of precisely what "Motorsport' stood for. It seems every German manufacturer is riding on the sales wave of special predecessor models.

Maybe its time AC Schnitzer, Hamman, or some tuning giant take the lead of AC Shelby and just improve an M car better than BMW 'stock M" models?

[empower]

I mean Alex that BMW have losted a little bit with the marketing and sale..and for that reasons have started to make car which in my opinion are useless (like the M4 CSL) and the only thing that they care for is profit. They forget driver's pleasure etc. I belong with those who admit that BMW stopped in the E46 series. I didn't like the M4. Of course it has to do with the taste but..i can't find a reason to make a new platform and name it M4. I would prefer an F80 M3 coupe and sedan version than this ugly M4. Again, i only speak for myself but after a long conversations with other guys who own M3 E92, GTS and M3 e46s they said me that the conclusion after they bought the M4 was to sell it and go buck to an E92 M3.

And don't forget that the badge 'CSL' sells more that any other badge in BMW past and recent history. Even more that the 'GTS'..

Also don't forget the badge CSL has sold more "PARTS" than any other BMW individual model

[Rick H]

M4 GTS or BAC Mono ?

[LeinsCSL]

Way too confusing these days with so many 'Motorsport' models. Taking the panache out of precisely what "Motorsport' stood for. It seems every German manufacturer is riding on the sales wave of special predecessor models.

Maybe its time AC Schnitzer, Hamman, or some tuning giant take the lead of AC Shelby and just improve an M car better than BMW 'stock M" models?

Alpina B4 GT3, whenever they get around to making one?