Immaculate M3 SMG...

[funtime]

Shamelessly pasted from my Pistonheads advert If any of you boys fancy a nice daily

Regretful sale of my immaculate M3, the only reason for selling this is the recent purchase of an M3 CSL.

If you're looking for a cheap M3 just for the sake of owning one then I'd look elsewhere. If however you want an immaculate fully spec'd example that's been owned and maintained by people who can afford to give it the care it needs without cutting corners then read on.

This car has had thousands spent on it as you will see from the list of work below, I specifically wanted one that had all of the common problems sorted out so that I wouldn't have any surprises.

Yes, you can buy a 2002 with 80k miles for £10k, but you only need to replace the disc's and pads all round, or have an SMG pump fail, and you would have spent more than my asking price. This M3 wants for nothing...

Car:

Facelift 2002 '52' reg (26/11/2002 registered - classed as a '2003' model year in BMW paperwork)
Carbon Black
Grey Leather
SMG II Gearbox

Facelift Features include:

Led rear lights
Front Strut Brace
Bi-Xenon's
Inflatable Side bolsters
Widescreen MK4 Sat-Nav

I wont bore you with a list of all the standard M3 options, as I would assume if your still reading at this point you already know this.

Optional Extras:

Widescreen Sat-Nav with 2010 3D maps
Harmon Kardon Professional
6-CD Changer
Bluetooth with Voice command
Heated seats
Electric Adjustable lumbar
Electric Adjustable bolster support
Power folding heated mirrors
Parking Distance Control system
19" Polished M3 alloys
Tyre pressure monitors
Rain sensing wipers
Auto Xenon's
Shadow Line Gloss Trim

Service History:

1200 Mile running in service - BMW Cooper Reading (1,427 miles, 30/12/02)
Oil Service: BMW Scotthall Hampshire (10,205 miles, 04/07,03)
Inspection 1: BMW Scotthall Hampshire (21,366 miles, 13/-5/04)
Oil Service: BMW Williams Liverpool (32,849 miles, 01/06/05)
Inspection 2: BMW Rydale Central (44,028 miles, 22,02,05)
Oil service: BMW Rydale Central (54,489 miles, 21/09/06)
Inspection 1: BMW Chandlers Brighton (66,729 miles, 25/04/08)
Oil Service: Lee Shannon BMW Specialist (77,508 miles, 16/04/10)

Work completed in the last 10,000 miles:

New SMG Gearbox - £4294.85 (BMW Vines Gatwick) - 72,578 miles (still under BMW warranty)
New SMG Pump - £2029.06 (BMW Vine Gatwick) - 76,027 miles (still under BMW warranty)
New Disc's & Pads all round + Oil Service £1100 (Lee Shannon BMW of Bentley) - 77,508 miles
New Clutch - £700 (Munich Legends) - 82,602 ( last week!)
New Michelin PS2's all round £1100 - 78,000 miles

Mot: 7th October 2011
Tax: 31/03/2011 (only £235)

Wheels/tyres:

18's -Ideally could do with a refurb, but do look tidy
18" front - 225/45/18 Continental M3 stamped tyre 6mm of tread
18" Rear - 255/40/18 Continental M3 stamped tyre 5mm of tread

19's -Fully refurbished professionally at great expense by Spit and Polish so these as as new
19" front - 225/40/19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 5/6mm of tread
19" front - 255/35/19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 5mm of tread

Bodywork:

Bodywork is outstanding, genuinely not a scratch on the car. Front has been resprayed at BMW to remove all stone-chips etc

Interior:

Again, excellent very little bolster wear and immaculate throughout. No scratches on the sat nav etc like many examples I've seen

As you can see the car is photographed with the 18" alloys on, the 19" polished alloys are away at Spit and Polish and have a full refub so they will be as new when they go with the car (wheels are back tomorrow 14/02/2011). I've always run the car on the 18" alloys as I think the ride is much nicer - maybe I'm just getting old!

I can honestly say you will not find a better example, I looked at 2005 examples when I brought mine - I didn't buy on price or mileage, just condition and maintenance. I paid the full asking price when I saw the car, as I knew it would save me thousands in the long run.

All documents present, I'll also issue a new HPI report for the buyer.

Car is priced to sell with 18's on, 19's available at additional cost.

I have a firm trade offer on the car, however I'd rather it went to a genuine buyer who will appreciate it for what it is and not a trader wanting to make a few quid.


Car is in Crawley for viewing

Price: £9,9990 with 18's £10,999 with new 19's

Contact: 07860475047

Thanks for reading,

James

[toofastforyou]

sorry to be the one to inform you mate, but this is a pre-facelift car. Facelift cars are after 53 reg. And facelift cars do not have the smg written in silver underneath the gear nob. It has had the rear LEDs added on. :bigcry::bigcry:

i would change your advert if I were you, you don't want people thinking you are trying to con them.:thumbs:

you said: 'I have a firm trade offer on the car, however I'd rather it went to a genuine buyer who will appreciate it for what it is and not a trader wanting to make a few quid.'

don't you mean you had a shit trade offer and you'd like to make a few more quid to help with your csl purchase.

nice looking car otherwise.

[Deezer-D]

toofastfor you may be right on the facelift bit - looks like the pre-facelift climate control panel too. Boot handle is pre-facelift (shorter). Clean car though GLWS

[funtime]

sorry to be the one to inform you mate, but this is a pre-facelift car. Facelift cars are after 53 reg. And facelift cars do not have the smg written in silver underneath the gear nob. It has had the rear LEDs added on. :bigcry::bigcry:

i would change your advert if I were you, you don't want people thinking you are trying to con them.:thumbs:

you said: 'I have a firm trade offer on the car, however I'd rather it went to a genuine buyer who will appreciate it for what it is and not a trader wanting to make a few quid.'

don't you mean you had a shit trade offer and you'd like to make a few more quid to help with your csl purchase.

nice looking car otherwise.

Dont be sorry. When I phoned up the BMW information line before I brought the car they confirmed that the strut brace, LED rears, and MK4 Sat Nav were all factory fit items. Also the inflatable side bolsters were standard on facelift.

I've been told that 53 onwards was the fully revised facelift, but different forms of facelifted cars were as early as 52 plate and had a mixture of both bits.

So I'm sorry to inform you that it's not just "had the LED rears added on"

As for the trade offer statement, I have had a reasonable trade offer, and obviously I would like to get more, but I'd have to be retarded to word it how you've suggested in a for sale advert.

Thanks for the comment's though :smokin:

[Sailorbaz]

Good luck with the sale mate, good detailed advert.

Congrats on the CSL Purchase! Sell it with the 19's and keep the 18's for Track Tyres 'cause you WILL be tracking the CSL...won't you?

[funtime]

Good luck with the sale mate, good detailed advert.

Congrats on the CSL Purchase! Sell it with the 19's and keep the 18's for Track Tyres 'cause you WILL be tracking the CSL...won't you?

Cheers Baz, I do plan to sell it with the 19's, going to put another advert up next week once the 19's are back from refurb.

I will track the CSL, but I was still undecided on whether to use the 18's or CSL wheels? I think i'll stick to CSL wheels - was talking to Ant at Simpson's about it and he said he actually prefers the 19's on track... :smokin:

[Bounce]

Mine was 03 reg and pre-face lift,no led rears.The strut brace and side bolsters was not classed as a face lift and i had those.Just be be careful mate as no way is a 52 plate a facelift.

[toofastforyou]

Mine was 03 reg and pre-face lift,no led rears.The strut brace and side bolsters was not classed as a face lift and i had those.Just be be careful mate as no way is a 52 plate a facelift.

exactly.

@funtime i've owned m3s since 01 when they first came out, so I know very well this is no facelift. either bmw lied to you, or you are lying. ask anyone that knows about e46 m3s, if it has the silver smg badge above the button for shift times it is 100% pre-facelift. i'm sorry to inform you it has just had the rear LEDs added.

the way I worded the comment about your trade offer statement is how any potential buyer will interpret it.

and i've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift, and then a year later do a 'full' facelift. :hahaha:

[shimmy]

Funtime, good luck with the sale and the new CSL

You'll love that CSL I guarantee. :smokin:

[outnumbered]

Agree with the posts above... this isn't a "facelift" car in the way that word is usually applied to M3s, the boot handle is a dead giveaway. The BMW information line are wrong, it would not have come with LED rears, they're a retrofit.

There was a very early change in 2001 which made the strut brace and adjustable seats standard equipment, but that isn't what people usually refer to as a "facelift" because almost all the cars have these.

Apart from that, it looks like a nice one.

[funtime]

Mine was 03 reg and pre-face lift,no led rears.The strut brace and side bolsters was not classed as a face lift and i had those.Just be be careful mate as no way is a 52 plate a facelift.

Oh ok I didn't know that, thanks

exactly.

@funtime i've owned m3s since 01 when they first came out, so I know very well this is no facelift. either bmw lied to you, or you are lying. ask anyone that knows about e46 m3s, if it has the silver smg badge above the button for shift times it is 100% pre-facelift. i'm sorry to inform you it has just had the rear LEDs added.

the way I worded the comment about your trade offer statement is how any potential buyer will interpret it.

and i've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift, and then a year later do a 'full' facelift. :hahaha:

Ok, careful - the word lying is quite strong. I'm just stating what information I had and where I had got it from. If you've read my other thread about 'CSL front PDC' then you'll see that it's not the first time I've phoned the £1 per min BMW Information line, only to be told things that aren't quite true. Thankfully when I went to see the CSL, BMW had not punched holes in the £3k front bumper to install PDC so it was a mistake on their part. Same obviously happened here.

As for 'I've never heard of any car manufacturer to do a 'half' facelift before doing a full facelift, despite what you might believe, you're not the font of knowledge when it comes to all things automotive. This is actually quite a common thing for manufactures to do, another good example will be the Mk2 VW Golf. They did a facelift called the '90 spec' where lots of things were changed e.g windows, doors, small/big bumpers etc etc. And there are MANY examples of cross over cars with 'half' facelifts from the factory.

I appreciate what everyones saying, and this doesn't appear to be a 'full facelift' but things are not always as black and white as you make out.

One last thing - people can make 'mistakes' - we're not all blessed with the knowlege that you have

Funtime, good luck with the sale and the new CSL

You'll love that CSL I guarantee. :smokin:

Cheers Shimmy - Can't wait :thumbs:

Agree with the posts above... this isn't a "facelift" car in the way that word is usually applied to M3s, the boot handle is a dead giveaway. The BMW information line are wrong, it would not have come with LED rears, they're a retrofit.

There was a very early change in 2001 which made the strut brace and adjustable seats standard equipment, but that isn't what people usually refer to as a "facelift" because almost all the cars have these.

Apart from that, it looks like a nice one.

Thanks Outnumbered, I think your correct - I'll adjust the advert accordingly.

To be honest it didn't bother me whether it was facelift or not, I just went on the spec and condition at the time

[glendog74]

Give the guy a break fellas, he's simply advertising his car - and what seems a very genuine car at that.

Facelift or not, a genuine buyer will offer and pay for the car what he thinks is fair based on it's condition - simples...

[rstoughy]

This is actually quite a common thing for manufactures to do, another good example will be the Mk2 VW Golf. They did a facelift called the '90 spec' where lots of things were changed e.g windows, doors, small/big bumpers etc etc. And there are MANY examples of cross over cars with 'half' facelifts from the factory.

My S8 has this, its a facelift with respect to 99% of the stuff but still came from the factory with the pre-facelift steering wheel.
Think it was what was available in the parts bin at the time of assembly.

Nice looking M3 and i'm sure it will sell :smokin:

[funtime]

Give the guy a break fellas, he's simply advertising his car - and what seems a very genuine car at that.

Facelift or not, a genuine buyer will offer and pay for the car what he thinks is fair based on it's condition - simples...

Cheers Glendog, I didn't expect to be bombarded with so many comments on here, but if the only suggestions for improvements to the add are to remove the word 'facelift' then I've not done a bad job

Thanks for the support :thumbs:

My S8 has this, its a facelift with respect to 99% of the stuff but still came from the factory with the pre-facelift steering wheel.
Think it was what was available in the parts bin at the time of assembly.

Nice looking M3 and i'm sure it will sell :smokin:

I'm glad it's not just me who has experience of this then, the VAG group seem to do this on alot of models as they are always introducing 'facelifts'

Cheers for the reply, can't wait to get the CSL :thumbs:

[shimmy]

How about 'face lift' style.........:hahaha:


Down at Simpsons and your new CSL looks superb condition James, better than mine for sure. Good buy IMHO.