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    #16
    Car has now been sold. These cars don't seem to hang around for long :banghead:

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      #17
      Reason why this was cheap

      I was looking to buy this car and almost did until I found out there were bigger gaps than 20000 miles in the service history. The largest gap possible would be 15500 miles and most CSLs generally get serviced every 10000 miles more or less. So basically meaning this car was not full service history like the running in service . If the running in service is done over 1700 miles then its not considered full BMW service history as there is only a 500 mile leeway on the 1200 miles . This is the reason it took sooooo long for me to sell the Irish car and more because I told everyone who enquired that the cars service was technically late. If Id have not said anything then Id have probably sold it a lot sooner but I always want to try and get back involved in the CSLs I sell so doing it as honestly as possible gives it a better chance to come back to me again although with this car it wasn't one I was happy to put my own money in to due to the late running in service so I sold it on behalf of the original owner but it took a year to sell. Who ever bought this car was obviously happy to not be bothered about the gaps or just didn't know that 20000 miles means its not full service history. I could have bought it for £26000 but didn't bother because it wasn't good enough for me and I didn't need another non full history car hanging around until who knows when. I think he got lucky with the sale but you make you own luck as I didn't by telling everyone about the running in process. Theres a few more cars out there with late running-in services but if its late you cant get a warranty on it aswell
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        #18
        Originally posted by nickjohnson View Post
        I was looking to buy this car and almost did until I found out there were bigger gaps than 20000 miles in the service history. The largest gap possible would be 15500 miles and most CSLs generally get serviced every 10000 miles more or less. So basically meaning this car was not full service history like the running in service . If the running in service is done over 1700 miles then its not considered full BMW service history as there is only a 500 mile leeway on the 1200 miles . This is the reason it took sooooo long for me to sell the Irish car and more because I told everyone who enquired that the cars service was technically late. If Id have not said anything then Id have probably sold it a lot sooner but I always want to try and get back involved in the CSLs I sell so doing it as honestly as possible gives it a better chance to come back to me again although with this car it wasn't one I was happy to put my own money in to due to the late running in service so I sold it on behalf of the original owner but it took a year to sell. Who ever bought this car was obviously happy to not be bothered about the gaps or just didn't know that 20000 miles means its not full service history. I could have bought it for £26000 but didn't bother because it wasn't good enough for me and I didn't need another non full history car hanging around until who knows when. I think he got lucky with the sale but you make you own luck as I didn't by telling everyone about the running in process. Theres a few more cars out there with late running-in services but if its late you cant get a warranty on it aswell
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        Very good points Nick thank you for the explanation

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          #19
          Originally posted by nickjohnson View Post
          I was looking to buy this car and almost did until I found out there were bigger gaps than 20000 miles in the service history. The largest gap possible would be 15500 miles and most CSLs generally get serviced every 10000 miles more or less. So basically meaning this car was not full service history like the running in service . If the running in service is done over 1700 miles then its not considered full BMW service history as there is only a 500 mile leeway on the 1200 miles . This is the reason it took sooooo long for me to sell the Irish car and more because I told everyone who enquired that the cars service was technically late. If Id have not said anything then Id have probably sold it a lot sooner but I always want to try and get back involved in the CSLs I sell so doing it as honestly as possible gives it a better chance to come back to me again although with this car it wasn't one I was happy to put my own money in to due to the late running in service so I sold it on behalf of the original owner but it took a year to sell. Who ever bought this car was obviously happy to not be bothered about the gaps or just didn't know that 20000 miles means its not full service history. I could have bought it for £26000 but didn't bother because it wasn't good enough for me and I didn't need another non full history car hanging around until who knows when. I think he got lucky with the sale but you make you own luck as I didn't by telling everyone about the running in process. Theres a few more cars out there with late running-in services but if its late you cant get a warranty on it aswell
          :thumbs:
          With all due respect NJ your info on "Running in service" is not factual and I'd like to know where you've sourced this information from as BMW themselves warranty cars with late running in service up to 2000 miles (so 800 mile leeway, not the 500 you claim) without issues. There are a number of Forum cars with later running in service which have been Warranted from New and not had any warranty claims refused to date, me included.
          What kills the full service history & warranty claims is going over the 2 year or 15500 limit between the BMW scheduled service intervals. Only them BMW can and often do refuse any warranty claims. This seems a real problem with some of the sub 10K miles CSL that seem to sell for £60K + yet have excessive time gaps between scheduled services :banghead:

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            #20
            I actually worked for BMW in 2003 and that was the perametres when I worked there. Ive also contact BMW on numerous occasions to confirm for varios different people. It is also down to the dealer you take it too as Ive had different answers from different dealers but also quite a few dealer like Benham BMW in Wolverhampton who sold cars over the 1700 miles would stand on them from a warranty stand but if you took it to another dealer who checked the service book(as not every running in service is dialoged on the system) then they would say its out of mileage. So If North Oxford Garage sold a CSL with running in service done at 1999 miles then only they could warrant work if the engine goes pop........oh yea and that's the other thing in the earlier days you could get a warranty for things like a diff and other warranty items but if the engine goes pop and you have a late running in service then your on your own. I have had experience of BMW warrantys a lot as ive sold one or two of these but they have also changed their peramtres over the years like you could used to get a warranty unless the car was still in warranty or you got an approved used to check done on the car where as now you can get one on it called a lapsed warranty which doesn't kick in for a month from when you buy it.

            Tell me people, or should I say Niel as I got it wrong before, How many no options cars were made and whats happened to them as I have a rather special car here with me im about to advertise:thumbs:

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              #21
              Nick. Look forward to hearing about this no option car. Brings back memories when I was looking for one (like finding hens teeth), but the Mrs said if we are going touring it will have air con. The boss always wins. Can't say I regret it as it gets bloody hot in a cesil even in the UK.

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                #22
                Originally posted by nickjohnson View Post

                Tell me people, or should I say Niel as I got it wrong before, How many no options cars were made and whats happened to them as I have a rather special car here with me im about to advertise:thumbs:
                I've been told there is only 3 genuine optionless cars ie. aside from the main 4, no sunstrip, no carpets, not even the CSL wheels.

                Did you not sell one last year though (17k miles if my memory serves me right)? Is this the same one? I only ask because I believe one was written off and the other one is currently sitting in my best mates garage never to be sold, and I really do mean NEVER!

                If it is a genuine optionless car then I'd say you could put whatever price you want on it Nick because if somebody wants a CSL the way it was designed to be, then this is their only chance. I feel a record price coming on :thumbs:

                *cough* £100k *cough*

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                  #23
                  I can confirm that the rumour Scott is spreading is indeed true - I own number three of three optionless cars and it will never be for sale.

                  If it's correct that Nick owns one, I have another and the last belongs to the scrap man then pick a figure and double it.

                  For what it's worth - £100,000 wouldn't buy mine - it's holding my garage down.

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                    #24
                    so an optioness CSL ... the main difference between that a regular averagely optioned CSL would be no aircon, no stereo ( assume Xenons, parking sensors would be on a highly optioned car )

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Scott View Post
                      I've been told there is only 3 genuine optionless cars ie. aside from the main 4, no sunstrip, no carpets, not even the CSL wheels.

                      Did you not sell one last year though (17k miles if my memory serves me right)? Is this the same one? I only ask because I believe one was written off and the other one is currently sitting in my best mates garage never to be sold, and I really do mean NEVER!

                      If it is a genuine optionless car then I'd say you could put whatever price you want on it Nick because if somebody wants a CSL the way it was designed to be, then this is their only chance. I feel a record price coming on :thumbs:

                      *cough* £100k *cough*
                      Agreed has to be very very rare ...

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                        #26
                        Mine has Xenons and Air Con and biz radio but no parking sensors

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by nw99 View Post
                          Mine has Xenons and Air Con and biz radio but no parking sensors
                          No Xenons or parking sensors here,those two options were only if you were Gay anyway :gayfight:

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Bounce View Post
                            No Xenons or parking sensors here,those two options were only if you were Gay anyway :gayfight:
                            Athough I have got them on my 325i Convertible :hahaha::hahaha:

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                              #29
                              Only aircon and radio.

                              So,not gay then afterall, :whistle:

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bounce View Post
                                No Xenons or parking sensors here,those two options were only if you were Gay anyway :gayfight:
                                I struggled to find another car with 6,300 miles on it 😀

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