Warrantied SG 2004 BMW M3 CSL #320 for Sale

[Okey]

Assuming it all stacks up, I'll bid you £33k unseen. :beer:

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put some more beer money on top, and get the funds ready
:finga:

[LeinsCSL]

GLWS, but I also believe it's too cheap by a good 15%. Anyone who views these as an overpriced E46 M3 isn't in the market for a CSL anyway, it's the person who views it as a cut-price GT3/360CS that will buy it

[Yanto_csl]

:thumbs:

put some more beer money on top, and get the funds ready
:finga:

I don't drink.....ask Leins :beer:

[LeinsCSL]

I don't drink.....ask Leins :beer:

I don't remember either of us drinking 😉

[mattCSLnut]

GLWS, but I also believe it's too cheap by a good 15%. Anyone who views these as an overpriced E46 M3 isn't in the market for a CSL anyway, it's the person who views it as a cut-price GT3/360CS that will buy it

Bang On :beer: that's exactly right :smokin:

[Trawler]

I don't remember either of us drinking 😉

That's what drink does, it affects the memory. :drinkers:

[E46CSL]

My personal take to the question of what is the CSL worth ?
Is it worth £50K.. personally I don’t think so. (pls read the entire post)
I think we CSL owners really know the true value of a CSL. Most people buying these cars now will be coming from other marques, or say Standard E46 M3.
Would they value a CSL at £50k ? Well not really as they are buyers not sellers.
I bought the CSL thinking, I could just park it on the street, run it to work , do the B road drives, a track day here and there and not loose too much money..how worng was I ? My previous car history included 2 Ferrari V8s, a radicle a Lancia Integrale Evo and a couple of Porsches, (I thought I was a petrol head) and even then I knew / heard little of what the CSL was actually all about.
Sitting in the CSL in traffic was a complete waste of its use, parking it on the street with potential damage to the CF roof, the front bumper, meant it soon got garaged. Taking it on track ment it needed brakes, then cups, then potentially suspension and Diff upgrades, plus it became too valuable to start spinning and mounting the kerbs with.
So where does that leave a car, in my opinion that is as good as a Ferrari 360 Stradale and a 996 GT3.
Yes.. I have driven and tracked both of them 10 years ago
The stradale is now worth more than its retail price in 2003… cheapest being around £150k.
The CSL matches it for thrills, drama , interior ambiance.
The CSL’s issue is badge snobbery, joe blogs thinks it’s a tarted up E46
You mention 996 GT3 and people go weak at the knees, you talk about stradales and scuderias and people just nod like its God given they are worth thousands over their base models. And 1.5 Times over original list , its changing more and more as people are now understanding what its about… BUT its still below its original price.
I think the values will rise as long as the economy remains stable. It will then sit at the same level as an E30 M3 Evo.
When I compare the two cars, driven and tracked the E30 as well…
The CSL looks more aggressive, it has a lot more power, sounds a lot more animalistic, such a special place to sit… but the E30 was homologation special so it all balances out.
The CSL covers all bases you can think off,
If it’s a garage queen, keep it standard, polish and replace with New OEM parts, and you have a cracking car that is stunning to behold.
If it’s a weekend B road blasting toy, stick on an exhaust that pops and bangs on the overrun and you have a wonderful tool.
If it’s a track car, AP’s /Intrax lighten the rear, and go drift it to your hearts content.
If it had a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it it would have risen so much monetary wise by now.
I cannot think of too many cars that cover all these bases.
So to answer the question, personally I think my CSL is worth £75K today.( Would someone pay me that for it today? Probably not. ! ) They have risen by 5K per year in the last 3 years, so in another 3 years or so they will all be worth £65 -75K and rising for any car that is simply straight..
The problem is the CSL is too special a car.. hats off to those that drive it daily.. (I couldn’t) hats off to those tracking it hard, (I couldn’t) and I couldn’t have it as a garage Queen either, it not my style… (even though its still stunning to just look at)
I am sinking the money into upgrading my business equipment, and will replace the CSL with a leased modern turbo charged V8 car that can left on the streets, tracked and driven daily without out me having to park 20 miles from Sainsbury car park, leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is birds droppings on the CF roof, and gently going round a track in case I bin it, driving it gloves to keep the steering wheel clean, and keeping the seat covered all the time… plus not letting the doors slam when people are getting in or out.. (probably also saving me a divorce case here.. My wife thinks I have lost the plot.)

Enjoyed reading this :thumbs:

[sp2c]

Ditto last comment, I to enjoyed reading the eloquently written post from Okey
Well done sir for taking the time & effort to express your thoughts

[s.mac]

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[Okey]

Enjoyed reading this :thumbs:

Cheers buddy, I could have gone on for hours on end. !!! Top car basically... :smt055

[cslsuperfan]

Cheers buddy, I could have gone on for hours on end. !!! Top car basically... :smt055

Nice narrative Okey.

a refreshing angle not always discussed

Let's hope they don't reach 75K

To stop driving these cars due to rising "garage queen" values would be a sad state of affairs.

[73CSL]

as you know , I've been thinking of selling mine and replacing it with another aircooled Porsche to sit alongside my other 2 ..... but, when I've started looking there is hardly anything decent in the CSL price bracket. Even looking at other makes, what else is there that is fun to drive, has little or no depreciation ?

The CSL really does seem to stand alone at around £40K

[Okey]

as you know , I've been thinking of selling mine and replacing it with another aircooled Porsche to sit alongside my other 2 ..... but, when I've started looking there is hardly anything decent in the CSL price bracket. Even looking at other makes, what else is there that is fun to drive, has little or no depreciation ?

The CSL really does seem to stand alone at around £40K

totally agreed.!! maybe Cayman R, but its down on power, and has no special bespoke bits.!! (I may be wrong)

Hold on to it if you don't need to sell... I know I will have to part with £55K when I return to the CSL fold.

[Okey]

Nice narrative Okey.

a refreshing angle not always discussed

Let's hope they don't reach 75K

To stop driving these cars due to rising "garage queen" values would be a sad state of affairs.

Kodus to you with what you have done... It's got to be something else to drive !! Has most of the right bits.
You must be laughing every time you take it out for a blast.
Think there is another stripped out version on here...

[cslsuperfan]

Kodus to you with what you have done... It's got to be something else to drive !! Has most of the right bits.
You must be laughing every time you take it out for a blast.
Think there is another stripped out version on here...

It's a hoot on the ring and on track but getting there is a little testing. :smokin: