Sub 50k SG wanted

[JBird]

Hi Ladies & Gents,

Thought I would join your fine forum, since I'm going to (finally) get a CSL.

Ideally i'm looking for a well looked after SG in the following cond:-
- under 50,000 miles
- Xenons
- Full service history
- BMW Warranty, or atleast a complete enough service history than I can put on a BMW AUC warranty on the car
(so running in service completed, all scheduled services, not more than 2 years between services, no heavy mods).
- Good interior cond (seats, carbon).
- Decent brakes would be a plus but not essential.

Have test driven a few cars already, so am pretty certain of what I want, and will pay a fair price for the right car.

If you are thinking of selling please contact me before advertising on PH / autotrader.

Thanks
J

[JBird]

Curious what people think would be a fair price for this 60,000 mile car from a dealer?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3713744.htm

...I'm sure you all agree thar the rims must be changed, so have to factor in 2,5k for a set of new rims and tyres. So 28,5 for a 60,000 mile car seems a tad on the high side.

Are there any other advantaged of buying from a dealer?

[shimmy]

Second hand CSl rims returned are £1200 and sell old ones £200, no reason to replace tyres. So add £1000 for rims.

What will cost you more is the fact it is 60k miles so any warranty will cost you double than if it was 59k miles. Could cost you £700-1000 a year extra.

[mattCSLnut]

Second hand CSl rims returned are £1200 and sell old ones £200, no reason to replace tyres. So add £1000 for rims.

Sometimes these M3 19" wheels have slightly different tyres sizes then the official CSL sizes. 225 insead of 235 (it's only an 8J wheel) at the front and 255 as oppose to 265 at the rear, so worth double checking with the dealer.

What will cost you more is the fact it is 60k miles so any warranty will cost you double than if it was 59k miles. Could cost you £700-1000 a year extra.

The dealer should pay the first year of extended Warranty as part of the AUC deal. After this expires, move it onto monthly payments to freeze any future Warranty price increases. Most owners with 60K + miles CSLs do :whistle:

[shimmy]

Sometimes these M3 19" wheels have slightly different tyres sizes then the official CSL sizes. 225 insead of 235 (it's only an 8J wheel) at the front and 255 as oppose to 265 at the rear, so worth double checking with the dealer.
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Matt

225/255 were standard Pilot Sport sizes on CSL and M3 so will be fine on the CSL rims as well, even though fronts 10mm wider.

[shimmy]

The dealer should pay the first year of extended Warranty as part of the AUC deal. After this expires, move it onto monthly payments to freeze any future Warranty price increases. Most owners with 60K + miles CSLs do :whistle:

You can't do that Matt

When you switch to monthly it is a different policy and the car will already be over 60k so will attract the higher price.

[mattCSLnut]

Matt

225/255 were standard Pilot Sport sizes on CSL and M3 so will be fine on the CSL rims as well, even though fronts 10mm wider.

I meant the "Proper" CSL wheels & tyre sizes :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

You can't do that Matt

When you switch to monthly it is a different policy and the car will already be over 60k so will attract the higher price.

I'm not disputing Warranty costs going up @ 60K miles +, unfortunately they do :banghead: yet you get less for it :banghead: At the end of 12 months Warranty one is given a choice of payment. Either a one off payment or monthly instalments which do not increase after a further 12 months and remain the same amount so long as they are paid each months, indefinitely :thumbs: The Warranty policy remains the same.

[JBird]

Cheers guys,

According to dealer it's not possible to switch the tyres. I'm sure I could flog them off on the bay and use the cash towards a set of "proper" CSL rims & tyres.

Cheers for the info RE the warranty, will be sure to check this in detail. Surprisingy the dealer couldn't tell me the on going costs of the warranty (I asked as I was also concerned about the 60k step) BMW don't want to comment themselves - seems the AUC warranty is an outsourced product.

Anyway..... a 40-50k car with the right rims on it in the first place is likley to be cheaper! I'll just be patient and wait for the right one to come along.

J

[JBird]

Bump......still looking!

[83SY]

Just to get this straight & im sure if im covering old ground.
my cars done 54k i pay monthly for the BMW warranty, when i pop over 60k if im paying monthly the cost stays the same? surely i have to make them aware at the end of each year the mileage & if its past the magic 60k mark?

if not & the car is sold years down the line at +60k if the next owner continues the monthly payments will he pay the same sub 60k premium ?

I'm not disputing Warranty costs going up @ 60K miles +, unfortunately they do :banghead: yet you get less for it :banghead: At the end of 12 months Warranty one is given a choice of payment. Either a one off payment or monthly instalments which do not increase after a further 12 months and remain the same amount so long as they are paid each months, indefinitely :thumbs: The Warranty policy remains the same.

[cslsuperfan]

warranty fees

as far as i understand bmw's service dept. will anotate your car's mileage each time it is serviced/warranty work etc carried out so therefore i'm sure bmw will automatically notify their warranty arm of the business and the registered keeper/name to which current warranty agreement is held will get the good news of the increase in payments.

[shimmy]

No that is incorrect.

I believe that if you start a warranty paid monthly it is a continuos policy (ie not renewed each year) therefore even though your mileage increases the policy remains as originally taken out until it is stopped and renewed (probably by another party). It doesn't affect payment or cover if your car should go above 60k within the period of your policy. Down side of monthly policy is that the maximum cover is the purchase value for the lifetime of the policy.

Annual policy renews every 12 months therefore will rise in cost when renewed and when you go over 60k miles as it is a new policy. Plus point of this is that you can claim up to purchase value every year (policy period)


I believe theoretically when sold the new owner should take out the policy and hence it will go up in price as above 60k miles. Not sure what happens if it is just transferred though.

[JBird]

Shimmy, interesting point about the month-by-month being limited to the value of the car. Do you know if this is the orginal new price value, or current value. E.g., if I buy a car for 23k that's had 23k of warranty work done on it, is the month-by-month effectivly worthless?

[shimmy]

Shimmy, interesting point about the month-by-month being limited to the value of the car. Do you know if this is the orginal new price value, or current value. E.g., if I buy a car for 23k that's had 23k of warranty work done on it, is the month-by-month effectivly worthless?

It's the price you pay for the car. If you have a significant warranty claim they will ask you to prove what you paid for it. Gawd knows why you can't give them any old scrap of paper if you were that way inclined.