BMW Car Track Day Photos

[GT TWO]

In principle i agree, but perhaps the photographer asked permission?

He did not, thats why the pics have been pulled.

[Rags]

Yeah, one if the guys on the forum took the photos then the owner wanted them deleted.

Anyway, its not like you can identify the identity of the owner or the car itself/

[houlbt]

Apologies. Is it ok to continue talking of pouncing on his misfortune and making a track car of it?

It's taking me a while to get the rules here, but I take it any negativity towards a BMW M3 CSL is not allowed, especially comments regarding depreciation of a BMW M3 CSL. It's ok to talk about a damaged BMW M3 CSL, but posting a picture so that users can see more clearly what's being discussed is not allowed. And it's ok to discuss benefiting from a damaged BMW M3 CSL owners misfortune by bagging a cheap car?

Great, all clear.

Is it an opportunity for me to build a racecar - yes.
Did this arise from someone elses misfortune - yes.

However, I maintain this is the best option now open to said owner. He would be better placed to sell the car as is at circa £10k and put the money he would have/will spend fixing it (I estimate £12-£16k) towards buying an uncrashed example.

Either way, I've know who's car it was and been in touch. He's chosen to repair it and I wish him the best and will help if I can. The pictures in my mind were harmless as they didn't identify the specific car but given then owner asked for them to be taken down then it's only fair to respect those wishes.

[dave1]

you dont live in the real world!i bet you,d give £10k for it so would i!!
i think there would be a big que for that car at £10k its a £3k repair and £25k done hello!

iv seen smashed to **** csl,s make £18k

"i estimate £12k to £16k to repair it"
what planet are you on? i hope you dont try your hand a body work for a living!!

[Rags]

LOL

Its damaged goods regardless if it gets fixed.

It would never be the same again.

[houlbt]

i think there would be a big que for that car at £10k its a £3k repair and £25k done hello!

Jesus keep your pants on Dave... don't be so cocking aggressive. You're entitled to think my repair estimate is high but no way is it £3k as you said here and on Mtorque.

We're talking about putting the car back to as new with genuine panels right??

How much is a replacement CSL front bumper?
How much does it cost to refit curtain airbags?
How much does it cost to repair rear quarter panels?
Paint work, was gravel rash all over it.... if you want the car back to an as new standard you might well end up respraying the whole car to get a good even finish.
There was from what I could see (I was there were you?? )some front suspension damage, minor but non the less needed replacing and the car subsequently realigning.
Supply/fit replacement glass?
Wheel refurbishment?

If you can do it for £3k send me your details and I'll get the poor owner involved to get in touch about a quote. :clown:

iv seen smashed to **** csl,s make £18k

Really? recently? no, didn't think so... there are a couple of leggy but clean cars that have just changed hands for <£20k. Good cars are going for low £20k's ... so how can you justify paying much more than £10k for an accident damaged car in the current climate?

Or think of it another way... how much would you pay for a damaged and subsequently repaired car? Would you really want to pay more than £20k given you can buy an undamged one for that kind of money. That being the case how much can you justify paying for a damaged car???

And in case you wondered, no I won't be trying my hand a running a body shop, thanks for the cocking tip.

[dave1]

secondhand parts wing £50 door £50 quarter £100 bumper £500
£1000 worth of paint few bits and bob,s i may be £500 either way but i have been doing this a long time.

i may of over reacted but when i see people say things like £12 to £16k to repair its no wonder :hahaha:

that is light damage and would repair a treat

not going to argue about it :beer:

[houlbt]

secondhand parts wing £50 door £50 quarter £100 bumper £500
£1000 worth of paint few bits and bob,s i may be £500 either way but i have been doing this a long time.

:smt017

ok, so you want to save a few quid with second hand parts. You find me a secondhand good condition genuine BMW CSL front bumper for £500. I'd like one myself so please send me the details. If you can't find one phone BMW and ask them for a price on a replacement CSL front bumper... then tell me if your £500 either way is even close.

Also, if the rear quarter panel is in need of replacement that's not a small job is it? Correct me if I'm wrong as it's not my area of expertise but it's not like a front wing which is a bolt on replacement, I think it's a more involved process as it's one piece with the roof line?


Airbags?
Glass?
suspension?
etc..

Then after all this we are still stuck on the fact that there are undamaged cars trading at just under £20k now (sad to see as a CSL lover but true). Hence why I maintain that a circa £10k price is fair bid for a damaged car before repairs.

Maybe you have been doing this a long time, but either be more tactful or sort your numbers out before you flame someone....

Let's leave it at that. :heart:

[AlexGTT]

As a CSL enthusiast, regardless of values & costs, I'm just very sad to hear about this. I wish the owner the very best of luck getting his pride and joy repaired and back out on the road where it should be.

[dave1]

secondbumper for sale couple weeks ago £500 the parts are there if you look fitting of the quarter is in the paint price 1/4 glass is £60 air bags second hand £30 wishbone at the worst £200 still along way from £12 to £16k or are you not good at maths either if csl,s are so cheap now go and buy one and chop that up!

[Helli2020]

proper handbags ! :blalalala:

[DazBlackCSL]

Yup ... me thinking exactly the same :whistle:

Thought the MT forum was for war a peace posts with people losing it on email !!

[glendog74]

Thought the MT forum was for war a peace posts with people losing it on email !!

Lol, me too! That's why i avoid it usually :hahaha: :clown: :hahaha:

[DazBlackCSL]

:wink:

[s.mac]

I'm not sure if he is a member but it was a guy from Leeds, it was a standard car but with Brembos all round. I think his RTABs were shot as he was struggling a bit round Brands.

Its me :-D and the rear left was well shot, BM sport sorted the problems the next day but its a shame I had to wait till after the track day. I was running slicks by the time I was back in Leeds :119:
Tom thanks for the passenger lap that you sorted with Jags, all I can say is :thumbs: what a car it really showed me what a CSL can do :-D

now I need some 888's or cups :drool:

on another note I have a vorsteiner front bumper for half of the £500 estimated if the guy who pranged his wants a quick fix :wink:

one for Tim... its Steve from the ring (EvoT)... hows it going ... and you need to get it round a track mate :thumbs: