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    #61
    Originally posted by trackm3 View Post
    I think Danny is now building a merc 190 dtm replica ? Danny come and confirm this ?
    I used to know of someone who had one of those but an original race car, not a replica, saw it run once, was incredible! :smokin:

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      #62
      Originally posted by Dan View Post
      I used to know of someone who had one of those but an original race car, not a replica, saw it run once, was incredible! :smokin:

      Dan when Danny builds a car trust me it will be near to exact so im looking forward to seing it finished, they where a superb car in there day and deffo the best years of the dtm.

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        #63
        Hi,

        Glendog- Yes, E30 M3 its all done but,
        decided to take the Drenth out
        as it was fantastic on ''Track '' but a
        right nightmare for almost everything else.

        2.33 1st gear with the twin plate clutch
        got interesting when moving it about.

        Have now gone back to a Getrag M3
        5 Speed dogleg, which is OK,
        but its a little bit short on 1st at 4.22 with
        a 3.73 CW/p.

        Just wish I had time to use it more.

        TrackM3- No the plans for the DTM merc
        have been changed, as getting parts was
        becoming stupid.
        Merc never did customer 190 cars like BMW
        on the E30 M3, so getting DTM Merc parts
        was far more difficult than I had hoped, and
        when you do find parts, they make S14
        parts seem very cheap !!

        The Merc 190 Klasse 1, 94 build, is the beast.
        Makes a CSL feel slow !!

        It does not help though that Stuttgart does not
        even have EVO Cranks,Blocks,Pistons etc,
        available anymore, and charges 500 euro
        for just the Evo headgasket, not set,
        so the plans changed a little.

        Should be interesting when done though,
        as its now more road focused.


        Regards,

        The Gorilla.

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          #64
          Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
          Hi,

          Glendog- Yes, E30 M3 its all done but,
          decided to take the Drenth out
          as it was fantastic on ''Track '' but a
          right nightmare for almost everything else.

          2.33 1st gear with the twin plate clutch
          got interesting when moving it about.

          Have now gone back to a Getrag M3
          5 Speed dogleg, which is OK,
          but its a little bit short on 1st at 4.22 with
          a 3.73 CW/p.

          Just wish I had time to use it more.

          TrackM3- No the plans for the DTM merc
          have been changed, as getting parts was
          becoming stupid.
          Merc never did customer 190 cars like BMW
          on the E30 M3, so getting DTM Merc parts
          was far more difficult than I had hoped, and
          when you do find parts, they make S14
          parts seem very cheap !!

          The Merc 190 Klasse 1, 94 build, is the beast.
          Makes a CSL feel slow !!

          It does not help though that Stuttgart does not
          even have EVO Cranks,Blocks,Pistons etc,
          available anymore, and charges 500 euro
          for just the Evo headgasket, not set,
          so the plans changed a little.

          Should be interesting when done though,
          as its now more road focused.


          Regards,

          The Gorilla.

          Keep me updated on the merc, I own a merc specialist garage. :thumbs:

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            #65
            Hi,

            Thought I would post this up,
            as it explains that era in
            Motorsport more than words
            ever can.

            Music not to everyones taste though !!

            Its what the ''Ring'' should be used for.



            Regards,

            The Gorilla.

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              #66
              quality video:thumbs:

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                #67
                Thanks for the update 'The Gorilla' :thumbs:

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                  #68
                  Pure 80's Auto Filth :drool: :drool: :drool:
                  LOVE it :smt055 THANX Gorilla :thumbs:

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                    #69
                    Hi,

                    Yes its an excellent video.

                    Lawsy- will post some pics up
                    in the next few days of the
                    old Merc 190.

                    Regards,

                    The Gorilla.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by The Gorilla
                      Hi,

                      Some Pics of the E30 M3.

                      Had problems loading, so just
                      to make sure this works will load
                      more later.

                      Regards,

                      The Gorilla.
                      Do me a favour. Change the rear spoiler with the original's Sport Evo... Thanks a lot!

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                        #71
                        Hi,

                        Quote-

                        ''Do me a favour. Change the rear spoiler with the original's Sport Evo... Thanks a lot!''

                        Hi Loaded, what, so its slower ?

                        The Car was built to perform, not appear in glossy Mags.

                        The ''ITC'' rear wing provides very good rear down force
                        without the enormus 'drag' of the EVO Sport rear spoiler
                        fitted with Flap.

                        Regards,

                        The Gorilla.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by The Gorilla View Post
                          Hi,

                          Quote-

                          ''Do me a favour. Change the rear spoiler with the original's Sport Evo... Thanks a lot!''

                          Hi Loaded, what, so its slower ?

                          The Car was built to perform, not appear in glossy Mags.

                          The ''ITC'' rear wing provides very good rear down force
                          without the enormus 'drag' of the EVO Sport rear spoiler
                          fitted with Flap.

                          Regards,

                          The Gorilla.
                          Hi Gorilla. My friend i didn't tell it to put it in glossy Mags, but in my opinion i believe that the rear spoiler with the flap in the maximum position can provide a lot of downforce but i can not imagine how much of it compared with the ITC..

                          always friendly

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                            #73
                            Hi,

                            Loaded- I was not arguing, just pointing
                            out that in 93/94 and thereafter, where the rules allowed
                            most E30 M3' s and the Merc EVO's ran the ITC
                            rear wing as it gives better downforce with less
                            drag.

                            If you look at the designs you will see how this
                            is achieved.

                            The Evo Sport rear spoiler with the extended Gurney
                            flap, there are 2 versions, creates something like
                            11% more drag than downforce.

                            So your slowing the car down to make rear end
                            downforce.

                            Regards,

                            The Gorilla.

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                              #74
                              Ok, i believe you're right.. I saw an ex DTM Merc evo with ITC rear wing but i is in Austria i think. European Hill Climb championship....


                              Regards

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                                #75
                                Hi,

                                Are you talking about the ''Meisle'' 190
                                with the Judd F1 Engine ?

                                His rear wing has somewhat grown over the
                                years, bit like a an ''ITC' on stilts.



                                He has a Judd engine just like Georg Plasa
                                use to have in his E36, but now runs
                                a BMW 1 series with the engine.

                                The link below gives a fascinating insight to
                                the development and build of the car.

                                Sunwin – Cổng game đổi thưởng uy tín top 1 châu Á với hơn 350+ trò chơi đỉnh cao. Hệ thống cược công khai, giao dịch siêu tốc, bảo mật tuyệt đối


                                This is the Georg Plasa E36 in action.



                                Here is the E36, and the 1 Series is rummored
                                to be a lot quicker.



                                Regards,

                                The Gorilla.

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