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    #16
    Originally posted by mattCSLnut View Post
    Full On Ex DTM E30 M3's :supz: even more so :thumbs:
    try £150k plus with race pedigree.

    i know a guy who has an ex soper dtm e30 in jagermeister colours and would track it at brands

    he was told by BMW to insure it for that value and its now no longer so busy on track. Hydraulic jacks, ronal magnesium wheels etc.

    if you are tracking it a cage is a must as a carbon roof n panels wont save your bonce so a good mod.

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      #17
      Looks good, enjoy !

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        #18
        I caged my last csl and for track now I couldn't have one without a cage. But if I was to do it again it would be e46 m3 that I stripped. Gs carbon airbox, and cams and virtually no difference to csl once at that stage.

        But then I think how much would it really devalue a csl to cage it, probably less than you would lose by modding the standard m3 come resale.

        And as Nathan says, depending on pick up points of that cage, an hour with the grinder and carpets back and you would never know.

        Looks great too.

        Csl with cage drive fricking mega. Soo different to without, but mine was all singing dancing cage.

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          #19
          Originally posted by lawsy View Post
          I caged my last csl and for track now I couldn't have one without a cage. But if I was to do it again it would be e46 m3 that I stripped. Gs carbon airbox, and cams and virtually no difference to csl once at that stage.

          But then I think how much would it really devalue a csl to cage it, probably less than you would lose by modding the standard m3 come resale.

          And as Nathan says, depending on pick up points of that cage, an hour with the grinder and carpets back and you would never know.

          Looks great too.

          Csl with cage drive fricking mega. Soo different to without, but mine was all singing dancing cage.
          Contemplated caging my CSL and tracking it heavily, but concluded that the expense coupled with the devaluation would be too much, plus tracking regularly will only lead to wanting to race at some point, and racing a CSL is a very expensive business. There is a CSL on PH at the moment for £28k that looks like it's had some money spent on it and I doubt it will be an easy car to sell.

          More to the point, a half-cage won't provide anything like the rigidity or full protection of a multi-point cage in a shunt, and as I got more confident on track, I got less comfortable with the speed and the lack of life insurance.

          So either: (I) an expensive and well-fitted half cage in the CSL for racy looks and a GT3 RS patina, which Simpsons have done well but which I think narrows the number of buyers for the car or (II) get a standard E46, strip it, add KWs, full cage, etc etc and you have a safer car that is just as fast and that you can race if you want without the devaluation. I've got an E36 M3 track car for exactly that reason.

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            #20
            Originally posted by GregorJP View Post
            .. I've got an E36 M3 track car for exactly that reason.
            Good choice.

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              #21
              Half cage better for a road car I think, have a big crash on the road with a full cage and no lid and it'll hurt...

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                #22
                Originally posted by _Nathan_ View Post
                Half cage better for a road car I think, have a big crash on the road with a full cage and no lid and it'll hurt...
                I thought long and hard about cages and ruled out FULL cage as car still is used on road and I wouldn't have front cage without lid unless the risks on track were too great. I (we) have seen and heard of bad injuries with full cages on road cars.

                Thought about half cage but the idea of the cage was to save me and a passenger on track and a half cage I think in a road car with all airbags still working, modern roll over protection and pillar strength it's a bit swings a roundabouts.

                If I did the ring I would have def put in a full cage as the risks are so much greater.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Mark CSL View Post
                  Is it just me or is this another CSL killed its resale value :whistle:
                  You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by cslsuperfan View Post
                    You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:
                    Nah his has shit tyres

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by lawsy View Post
                      Nah his has shit tyres
                      Saves it flipping on its roof

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by cslsuperfan View Post
                        You should be over the moon mark, with one less on the purist shelf your csl is worth just that little more:whistle:
                        It's your choice m8 I just think it makes the
                        Car harder to sell it with the cage

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                          #27
                          Done already!? Car looks awesome, they've done an excellent job by the looks of things mate and don't worry about resale, the others just haven't got big enough balls to do what you've done. The car is to be enjoyed and not to fret about whether it will sell or not later on in life, that's if you ever do sell it. However if/ when you do, a different person will buy it for a completely different reason, the way it was designed - to be driven! GL

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                            #28
                            Well modded mate - exactly how the CSL should have been from factory! Don't worry about all this resale value nonsense it's nothing that can't be undone plus somebody out there might like it exactly the way it is

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Brandtner View Post
                              Well modded mate - exactly how the CSL should have been from factory! Don't worry about all this resale value nonsense it's nothing that can't be undone plus somebody out there might like it exactly the way it is
                              I Like it, don't you change a thing :-D

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by karbonkid View Post
                                Done already!? Car looks awesome, they've done an excellent job by the looks of things mate and don't worry about resale, the others just haven't got big enough balls to do what you've done. The car is to be enjoyed and not to fret about whether it will sell or not later on in life, that's if you ever do sell it. However if/ when you do, a different person will buy it for a completely different reason, the way it was designed - to be driven! GL

                                +1

                                looks great, enjoy driving it to its potential :beer::beer:

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