" Clubber's CSL Journal "

[Clubber]

Hey Everyone,

This is a mini journal of my CSL. Will try to update as I go along with info that would hopefully be helpful to all of us.

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After carefully reading every track addicts choices and advices, I decided to go for a lightweight 18" track wheels and Cups for my track work. And use the 19" CSL's with Michelin Super Sports (Awesome in the rain btw). I just heat cycled them for 15 min of moderate twisty driving and will be parked till tomorrow for the full effect.

They are 18x9 ET40 OZ Ultraleggera wrapped in 265/35/18 Michelin Cups. 10mm Spacer in the front and 20mm in the back. Will try them this weekend at the track looking forward for my first CUP experience.

Here are a couple shots, will add more after the track day. Thanks for looking.

[Scott]

Very nice :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Looks great Can :thumbs:

[Brandtner]

Looks great

[DazBlackCSL]

Nice :beer:

[azrael]

Wheels look great

whats the overall weight difference & cost versus standard 19's with cups

[Clubber]

Very nice :thumbs:

Thanks

Looks great Can :thumbs:

Thanks Rob. Should I paint them red ?

Looks great

Thank you

Nice :beer:

Thanks.

Wheels look great

whats the overall weight difference & cost versus standard 19's with cups

Thanks.

Wheels weigh 8.7kg each compared to 12.6kg and 13.8kg for CSLs.
I forgot to put them on a scale with the tires but will do on Monday when I take them off and switch back to CSL'S with Michelin SS. I'll update this thread with exact weights of both setup.

The weight will be a nice difference but, my main reason for this setup was cost and to eliminate slight understeer with wider fronts. Since this is a square setup, you can rotate the wheels front and back, left and right. Hence longer life (At least thats the plan)

With OEM CSL setup, cups cost around %15 more (might me different in UK or other countries) and you can only switch left to right. Not to mention the 18 sizes are much easier to find.

[azrael]

Thanks

Thanks Rob. Should I paint them red ?

Thank you

Thanks.


Thanks.

Wheels weigh 8.7kg each compared to 12.6kg and 13.8kg for CSLs.
I forgot to put them on a scale with the tires but will do on Monday when I take them off and switch back to CSL'S with Michelin SS. I'll update this thread with exact weights of both setup.

The weight will be a nice difference but, my main reason for this setup was cost and to eliminate slight understeer with wider fronts. Since this is a square setup, you can rotate the wheels front and back, left and right. Hence longer life (At least thats the plan)

With OEM CSL setup, cups cost around %15 more (might me different in UK or other countries) and you can only switch left to right. Not to mention the 18 sizes are much easier to find.

Great thanks for the response :tu

[pinkpanther008]

Istanbul

Clubber,

Car looks great, havent seen it cruising the streets when ive been in the city, where abouts are you based?

PP

[Clubber]

Great thanks for the response :tu

Your welcome.

Clubber,

Car looks great, havent seen it cruising the streets when ive been in the city, where abouts are you based?

PP

Thanks PP. It's more like a weekend and track car so would be a slim shot to see it around actually. I am located in Istanbul on the European side but let me know next time you are around, I'd be happy to show her to you.

[mattCSLnut]

Looks good Can :thumbs: when do the BREMBOs get bolted On ? :whistle:

[Clubber]

Looks good Can :thumbs: when do the BREMBOs get bolted On ? :whistle:

Hey Matt. I still can't find a proper 996 set. I'm afraid I'll have to save up and go for the "do it once do it right, AP" route. As with the cups and 18"s. The car will be needing proper stopping power.

But who knows, if I find a suprisingly well priced set of brembo's I might think again

[Clubber]

Quick Update,

I had a wonderful track day at Istanbul Park yesterday thanks to my new setup. This was my fist experience with cups let alone on a CSL and I must say, WOW ! What a difference ! It is a whole other car with these.

Combined with lightweight square setup I was able to best my previous time by 6 seconds ! That is a HUGE improvement considering it is a 2 minute circuit over there. Super happy.

I just took them off and stored them for their winter sleep and put the CSL's back on. OZ's will be back on when the trackday season starts early march.

Just a quick question guys;
Should I just rotate them front to back or also cross switch ? Like front left to rear right and vice versa ?

[mattCSLnut]

Quick Update,

I had a wonderful track day at Istanbul Park yesterday thanks to my new setup. This was my fist experience with cups let alone on a CSL and I must say, WOW ! What a difference ! It is a whole other car with these.

Combined with lightweight square setup I was able to best my previous time by 6 seconds ! That is a HUGE improvement considering it is a 2 minute circuit over there. Super happy.

Welcome to the Dark side mate :supz: Mine's been exclusively on CUPS since 2011 :smokin:

I just took them off and stored them for their winter sleep and put the CSL's back on. OZ's will be back on when the trackday season starts early march.

Just a quick question guys;
Should I just rotate them front to back or also cross switch ? Like front left to rear right and vice versa ?

As CUPs are an Asymmetric tyre it's possible to that so to get the most mileage & life out of them I'd say Yes :beer:
Just make sure you inflate them to 26 psi (1.8 bar) cold for Track work.

[billyboysm3]

I always rotate front to rear after each TD.

I found you then get even wear.