thoughts about track rims and tyres

[billyboysm3]

Its fine, do it, better to have camber at -3.25, mine just rubs at full lock so slightly. Running intrax coilovers.

I dont find them to bad tram lining compared to normal set up.

[alexk]

I found some pics of the car.








It looks like a tight fit.

[alexk]

My favorite black wheels...
you can't see anything, just a black thing somewhere :whistle:

[billyboysm3]

Found these on my phone square set up

[alexk]

I am fine with aggressive look

This is a car from Zurich

[shimmy]

I rarely drive it so it won't be a problem.

Where you happy otherwise ?
I mean, does it make sense ?

it looks very aggresive and i like staggered look more so i guess from mu perspective no.

[alexk]

I rarely drive it so it won't be a problem.

Where you happy otherwise ?
I mean, does it make sense ?

[shimmy]

I am going to get a new set of CSL wheels this year.
I am considering getting 4 x rears.
shimmy can you provide some update about it ? Is it worth it ?

Also, do you have any other pics of your car with the 4 x rear CSL wheels ?

That was only time I used them Alex, the tramlining at -3 on the road is a pain

[alexk]

Managed today to sort out my car and remove my track wheels, check them all over and put back on road pads and wheels for the winter.

From my recent outing at Bedford trying out rear CSL rims up front i can report the following;


1. Running 9.5Jx19 rims with 265/30 Cups up front with -3 camber on track suspension setting clears the arch

2. I did notice (see pics) minorubbing of the arch liner but that when checked was from slow speed max lock turns in the pit area.

3. No excessive wear of the tyres

4. The car did feel like it was gripping better on turn in and the data logger seemed to back that up although it does need some more runs in constant good weather to back this up

5. I did notice however the slightly heavier or maybe grippier front wheel as soon as i got in!!

The pics below show the minor rubbing and the before and after look of the car.

I am going to get a new set of CSL wheels this year.
I am considering getting 4 x rears.
shimmy can you provide some update about it ? Is it worth it ?

Also, do you have any other pics of your car with the 4 x rear CSL wheels ?

[shimmy]

Mmmmmm you do have a serious side mate ...

just creeps out there sometimes (at work i am a bastard!)

[shimmy]

Does anyone have anyexperiences with any of these wheels? Does anyone know if anyone sells MT1 in europe?

no, not personally

im sure youll find MT1 in Europe and if not the US suppliers willship for you for sure. They were very keen to ship me my rims even though they came from Japan!:thumbs:

[DuncanR]

thought about slicks last year Hazy but my car is road spec and no cage and once you see the extra cornering G forces caused when using slicks and then translate that into the extra speed you are likely to hit a wall then i decided then and there;

2. No Slicks without cage


to go along with my previous rule;


1. No Ring laps without cage

:thumbs:

might be worth it at Bedford but really dodgy at Brands, Oulton or Silverstone

Mmmmmm you do have a serious side mate ...but I like your thinking, and wise words.:thumbs:

[Forelli]

Very interesting thread, thanks for all the insightfull information.

Am I right to assume that CSL and M3 geometry is exactly same? If so, then something I have gathered from other M3 forums is that square 18*9,5 et 35 with 265/35 and 10mm spacer back is an ideal setup for spirited driving (track/street), also allows for swapping around wheels.

I myself am driving with some widelip supadupa heavy blings, but am going for light & wide (&cheap)wheels for next season (the 19" blings are now my winter wheels...)

I have put my eyes on tirerack Motorsport MT1 wheels, which I like stylewise, but problem is I havent found them for sale anywhere in europe. (doable with streetable camber -2 to-2,5) Can take up to 275/285 tires and no spacers needed.

Specs 18*9,5 et 35 19lbs 319$ and/or 18*10 et25 20lbs 329$

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=MT188544520MG&wheelMake=TRMotorsport&wheelModel=MT1&wheelFinish=Matte+Grey&showRear=yes&selectedRear=MT189535520MG&autoMake=BMW&autoModel=M3+Coupe&autoYear=2002&autoModClar=&filterSize=18&filterFinish=All&filterSpecial=false&filterBrand=All&filterNew=All&sort=Brand

Then I know people are running Enkei NT03 wheels square (needs if I recal correctly atleast -3 camber) Can be found in Europe

Specs 18*10 et 25 20,5lbs 279£

http://www.performancealloys.com/details.asp?procedure=wheel&id_wheels='NT03%20M%20F1%20Silver'&id_wheels_manufacturers='Enkei'&id_wheels_sizes='18x10'&price='279'&permission=564347317

Then there is ofcourse the D-force LTW5 wheel for which looks I am not too fond of, but can also be found in europe.

Specs 18*9,5 et35 18,5lbs

Does anyone have anyexperiences with any of these wheels? Does anyone know if anyone sells MT1 in europe?

[TANKSLAPPER]

I got the same as that on full lock, but I don't call it rubbing. I only call rubber to metal rubbing. lol

Just put the heat gun on the liner and stretch it or take out the liner, sorted. !

[shimmy]

Managed today to sort out my car and remove my track wheels, check them all over and put back on road pads and wheels for the winter.

From my recent outing at Bedford trying out rear CSL rims up front i can report the following;


1. Running 9.5Jx19 rims with 265/30 Cups up front with -3 camber on track suspension setting clears the arch

2. I did notice (see pics) minorubbing of the arch liner but that when checked was from slow speed max lock turns in the pit area.

3. No excessive wear of the tyres

4. The car did feel like it was gripping better on turn in and the data logger seemed to back that up although it does need some more runs in constant good weather to back this up

5. I did notice however the slightly heavier or maybe grippier front wheel as soon as i got in!!

The pics below show the minor rubbing and the before and after look of the car.