PF brake discs - are they really any good!?

[shimmy]

so my PF front discs finally bit the dust at Rockingham. Just one crack to the edge but a bad one which I could straight away feel thru the brake pedal.

They covered 2100 track miles, same as the last AP set, but using RS14 pads instead of RS29, which are meant to be a little softer and kinder to the disc.

Overall I think the PF are certainly no better and possibly a little worse than the AP DISCS.

So I've just put the AP discs on I got from Lawsy. If the scouser ain't sold me a bent set then with the little wear they have they should last 1500-1800 track miles.

[glendog74]

My car is booked into Simpson this Friday for a full AP replacement. Anthony initially convinced me to go the PF route on the fronts but listened to my experience of APs and said that i must have a good set.

Incidentally, PF discs have recently gone up in price by £35 per disc and are now £285 + VAT per disc. APs are £60 cheaper per disc.

APs again for me :thumbs:

Not looking forward to the bill though... :banghead:

[shimmy]

Do you just mean discs Rob or are you doing calliper refurb as well?

Last time I was there for brakes they got me a calliper seal set and refurbed the fronts as the car had done 3 years + of track days

[glendog74]

Do you just mean discs Rob or are you doing calliper refurb as well?

New AP discs front & rear with Pagid RS29 all round.

My callipers should be ok at the moment as they were fitted in Nov '08 -covered 7 UK TDs and 7 Ring trips since.

[s.mac]

Those disks are f- -cked Shimmy
youre not getting good life out of either PF or AP !!!


Its the 1st time I've had pagid pads (29's), I think they are a very hard pad and I'm looking for a set of pads just to use for road pads, far too severe for road IMO

do you know the AP front and rear pad shapes so I can look at alternatives or can I cross reference the pagid part number? (if there's one on the box..)

[s.mac]

New AP discs front & rear with Pagid RS29 all round.

lazy sod, do it yourself

[shimmy]

lazy sod, do it yourself

It is an easy job tbh, even I do mine.......

[shimmy]

Those disks are f- -cked Shimmy
youre not getting good life out of either PF or AP !!!


Its the 1st time I've had pagid pads (29's), I think they are a very hard pad and I'm looking for a set of pads just to use for road pads, far too severe for road IMO

do you know the AP front and rear pad shapes so I can look at alternatives or can I cross reference the pagid part number? (if there's one on the box..)

I generally use the Pagid shape code (E8018 or E1903 will fit use disc front, E1265 rear) Nd either buy from Questmead or ASPerformance)

I used to swap between RS29 all round for track and DS2500 for road but fir last 18 months I have used RS14 front and DS2500 rear. No squeaking and not too harsh. Pads are much cheaper than RS29 but as you'd expect they do wear faster.

[glendog74]

lazy sod, do it yourself

It is an easy job tbh, even I do mine.......

I know - i have done my pads before and would happily do the discs but i can't be arsed messing with the fluid - which will be done too.

Is there a handy guide anywhere for the fluid change and bleeding procedure? :smt017

[glendog74]

Its the 1st time I've had pagid pads (29's), I think they are a very hard pad and I'm looking for a set of pads just to use for road pads, far too severe for road IMO

do you know the AP front and rear pad shapes so I can look at alternatives or can I cross reference the pagid part number? (if there's one on the box..)

I must say that i find RS29 fine on road and they warm just fine for me. I may be able to help you with another choice however Steve - they are AP fitment too.

I bought a set of Mintex Racing M1144 pads last year from Questmead. I bought them as a decent quality set to use on road during winter months. I have not used these before but i believe they should cope with a track day or two also as well as road. They are made by TMD Friction - the same company that make the Pagid pads. I don't require these now as i rarely use my CSL in winter and the RS29s will stay fitted.

Let me know if you are interested - i can even bring them up to Yorkshire this weekend as i will be up that way :thumbs:

[shane@mbtech]

So I've just put the AP discs on I got from Lawsy. If the scouser ain't sold me a bent set then with the little wear they have they should last 1500-1800 track miles.

They should be fine Shimmy, if not 100% money back guarantee:thumbs:


Only £100 as well ya tight git:birdman:

[shane@mbtech]

I must say that i find RS29 fine on road and they warm just fine for me. I may be able to help you with another choice however Steve - they are AP fitment too.

I bought a set of Mintex Racing M1144 pads last year from Questmead. I bought them as a decent quality set to use on road during winter months. I have not used these before but i believe they should cope with a track day or two also as well as road. They are made by TMD Friction - the same company that make the Pagid pads. I don't require these now as i rarely use my CSL in winter and the RS29s will stay fitted.

Let me know if you are interested - i can even bring them up to Yorkshire this weekend as i will be up that way :thumbs:

I too have heard good things about these

Visiting the in laws then Rob:thumbs:

[alexk]

I know - i have done my pads before and would happily do the discs but i can't be arsed messing with the fluid - which will be done too.

Is there a handy guide anywhere for the fluid change and bleeding procedure? :smt017

In order to do proper brake bleeding in our cars, you need to use the BMW GT1 and open the DSC valves.
I can make a proper how-to since I do it on my own (I have a brake bleeder and a GT1 ).

[shane@mbtech]

In order to do proper brake bleeding in our cars, you need to use the BMW GT1 and open the DSC valves.
I can make a proper how-to since I do it on my own (I have a brake bleeder and a GT1 ).

Never used gt1 alex and never had any issues bleeding my brakes. :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Visiting the in laws then Rob:thumbs:

Indeed

I can make a proper how-to since I do it on my own (I have a brake bleeder and a GT1 ).

Cool :smokin: