Remaps- are they worthwile?

[shane@mbtech]

Whats your thoughts guys on remaps?

Im on the fence due to various things/feelings I have seen/had lately.

Are they worth it do you notice a difference?

Who is the best out there?


AL tuning get good reviews, aat technik come highly recommended too.

People rave how good simpsons are, are their maps good too?

I personally know dms and they get good power?




Shimmy dont answer. You thought your 4.10 diff was amazing and made the car pull harder and accelerate faster then realised it wasnt fitted:whistle:, so your findings realise my thoughts of placebo effect and that they may do fuck all, but we believe they do. (plus sal pays you off, or is that blows you off- delete as appropriate)


Be interested in your views guys.

First person to recommend thorney gets a slap:birdman:

[mole]

Whats your thoughts guys on remaps?

Im on the fence due to various things/feelings I have seen/had lately.

Are they worth it do you notice a difference?

Who is the best out there?


AL tuning get good reviews, aat technik come highly recommended too.

People rave how good simpsons are, are their maps good too?

I personally know dms and they get good power?




Shimmy dont answer. You thought your 4.10 diff was amazing and made the car pull harder and accelerate faster then realised it wasnt fitted:whistle:, so your findings realise my thoughts of placebo effect and that they may do fuck all, but we believe they do. (plus sal pays you off, or is that blows you off- delete as appropriate)


Be interested in your views guys.

First person to recommend thorney gets a slap:birdman:

Mine (not saying who did it) was checked by someone and found to be just 10% more fuel and 2.5 degrees ignition plus a higher (impossible to reach) speed limit. Nothing else touched. No wonder I didn't notice a difference :whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

Mine (not saying who did it) was checked by someone and found to be just 10% more fuel and 2.5 degrees ignition plus a higher (impossible to reach) speed limit. Nothing else touched. No wonder I didn't notice a difference :whistle:

So a shit map then, seeing a few of these lately.

[jibm]

So a shit map then, seeing a few of these lately.

should really name and shame, so others don't fall foul

[alexk]

My personal opinion is that it's not worth it, especially when the car is stock.

What will the tuner get out of the engine that BMW Motorsport didn't ?
Spare me the 'yes, the factory map is so as it can work with pump fuel in Nepal...'
CSL was never meant to be driven in some village in the end of the world that the fuel is not good.

Next time we will meet with Matt, we will test our CSLs.
His CSL made high HP number in the Dyno, but I reckon (and I might be wrong) he won't have much (if any) difference on the road.

Just my opinion of course and what I am doing with my car.
I think a backbox is what a CSL needs. The rest... is a waste of money.

[shane@mbtech]

My personal opinion is that it's not worth it, especially when the car is stock.

What will the tuner get out of the engine that BMW Motorsport didn't ?
Spare me the 'yes, the factory map is so as it can work with pump fuel in Nepal...'
CSL was never meant to be driven in some village in the end of the world that the fuel is not good.

Next time we will meet with Matt, we will test our CSLs.
His CSL made high HP number in the Dyno, but I reckon (and I might be wrong) he won't have much (if any) difference on the road.

Just my opinion of course and what I am doing with my car.
I think a backbox is what a CSL needs. The rest... is a waste of money.

I want to get out on track with Shimmy,. To see how his remapped and motorsport diff does against my stock map, stock diff. I reckon it may just have the edge but will be interesting to see.

[alexk]

I want to get out on track with Shimmy,. To see how his remapped and motorsport diff does against my stock map, stock diff. I reckon it may just have the edge but will be interesting to see.

Guy that I know in Greece measure his CSL with stock and changed diff.
Stock differential is MUCH faster in acceleration (0-100, 0-200, 100-200).
I can find the graphs.

I think a set of really light wheels can make difference in performance (straight line, braking and cornering).
A map and differential... no way !

[shane@mbtech]

Guy that I know in Greece measure his CSL with stock and changed diff.
Stock differential is MUCH faster in acceleration (0-100, 0-200, 100-200).
I can find the graphs.

I think a set of really light wheels can make difference in performance (straight line, braking and cornering).
A map and differential... no way !

Be interesting to see the graphs as US graphs show the opposite way. No huge difference but they rate 4.10 diff as v slighly faster acceleration.

[alexk]

new thread...

[_Nathan_]

Don't think there are any big gains to be had.

Simpsons use ESS maps, no idea how they compare to anything else, I've got some ESS code on mine but only to mess with the throttle map to limit it to 320bhp for power to weight, don't think it does anything else.

As for diff - I can't see how it would be slower? More torque at the wheels = better acceleration. As long as it isn't so short that the extra gear changes absorb all the time gained...

[daniel_csl]

Just to narrow it down for you a bit more. Al = AAT.

[Dan_csl]

Next time we will meet with Matt, we will test our CSLs.
His CSL made high HP number in the Dyno, but I reckon (and I might be wrong) he won't have much (if any) difference on the road.

If Matt's keeps pulling like it did when he took me out in it then you'll see the difference, it's solid in the mid-range and pulls very hard all the way to the redline in every gear, I'm not going to say who did the Map as he's asked me not to and I respect that but I'll be getting one for sure, worth every penny IMO! :thumbs:

[scrubberamit]

I got mine done by Technosport last summer... http://www.technosport.co.uk/contactus.html

(for anyone who was at the top gear dunsfold event, George had his race car parked next to our CSLs)

George had the car for nearly 3 weeks and to be honest i wasnt sure what to expect

When i got the car back - i was so impressed... The power curve was linear and what really impressed me is taht how the car keeps pulling through the revs - no need for changing gear at all at 6000 revs ....she now pulls to 145 mph in 4th gear!!!

I'm not going to name ANY names here, as it's not my business to sl&g off companies on the web... All i will say is that any tuning company that claims you will get x % increase in bhp etc etc is talking utter sh1t..

The thing that really impressed me with George is taht there was no guarantee of 20 bhp increase or your 0-100 times will be down by 2 secs or rubbish claims like that... What i was promised was more grunt and sharper acceleration - and that's exactly what i got...

Oh the guy that actually did the tuning of my car was a senior engineer for BMW M SPORT and actually worked on teh pistion design of a certain Mclaren F1...

Are remaps worth it - I would say hell yes... But do your research... There are several people on diff forums who can give you advice on where to go / not to go...

As mentioned above, my only advice would be AVOID anyone who comes out with nonsense claims - you will be disappointed... You cannot improve your car with bolt ons - You will be 100% disappointed... and these bolt ons can actually cause damage to your car....

The only way you can improve your car is with a custom remap of the ECU

[_Nathan_]

no need for changing gear at all at 6000 revs ....she now pulls to 145 mph in 4th gear!!!

Why would you change at 6k in a non remapped car? I don't get it! :whistle:

[shane@mbtech]

If Matt's keeps pulling like it did when he took me out in it then you'll see the difference, it's solid in the mid-range and pulls very hard all the way to the redline in every gear, I'm not going to say who did the Map as he's asked me not to and I respect that but I'll be getting one for sure, worth every penny IMO! :thumbs:

He has already told everyone, DMS