SUSPENSION CHOICE KW or NITRON...!!! (heeelp )

[nick///M3]

It's called "wear & tear" :banghead: BMW Warranty only covers suspension parts up to 60 000 miles / 100 000 kms ... after that it's "BMW Good Will" but that rarely goes through on suspension components these days :bigcry:
The cost of replacement O.E. CSL suspension is almost the same as a decent after market suspension kits so most owners go for a/m suspension kits as it offers better adjustibility + in some cases the a/m kits can be rebuild after a few years use, unlike the O.E. stuff that just gets bind :smt087
BTW the O.E. CSL suspension is quite firm as standard, even with a few miles/kilometres on them :whistle:

looking to sell something mate????:hahaha:

i am so darn confused here....

first the club-sport
then the Nitron sport+
now the moton 1 way ....( keep reading reviews from people in the us how awesome this kit is and how well it drives and handle!!!!! )

Jesus Christ !!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghe ad::banghead:

and the thing is that everybody has different opinions on what someone should get....

the more i read and try to compare the kits, the more confused i get....

and the money are quite a bit too....
i am going to spend another 2k++ for a new suspension and don't want to get something i won't like at the end....

[shimmy]

i haven't decided yet....

but the thing is, if the stock is so damn good why do people go on to change their suspensions?

?

because they can!:smokin:

of course there are benefits from a/m suspension, best of all is the amount of tyre wear it saves you on fast tracks by preventing the body roll onto the tyre edges

but of your aim is mainly to do the Ring i personally dont think there will be any improvement on a CSL. probabaly the opposite (Rob seems to be getting slower :whistle

[mattCSLnut]

i am so darn confused here....

first the club-sport
then the Nitron sport+
now the moton 1 way ....( keep reading reviews from people in the U.S. how awesome this kit is and how well it drives and handle!!!!! )

Jesus Christ !!!!!!!!!!!!!:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghe ad::banghead:

You're getting handling advice form the U.S. Guys ??? :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: No wonder you're confused :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

[nick///M3]

because they can!:smokin:

of course there are benefits from a/m suspension, best of all is the amount of tyre wear it saves you on fast tracks by preventing the body roll onto the tyre edges

but of your aim is mainly to do the Ring i personally don't think there will be any improvement on a CSL. probably the opposite (Rob seems to be getting slower :whistle

yet you got your self an intrax if i remember right?

you said i am going to ignore your advice on the stock suspension ( which i am trying to do ) but the car is no csl...
i don't know if the csl suspension is going to work properly with almost 80-100kg more weight to transfer....

[shimmy]

You're getting handling advice form the U.S. Guys ??? :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: No wonder you're confused :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

there si abosolutley no doubt in my mind that OEM CSL suspension is the best road option BY FAR. Then again the M3 suspension is probabaly better than that on road :smokin:

[nick///M3]

You're getting handling advice form the U.S. Guys ??? :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha: No wonder you're confused :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

hahahaahahaha:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

so give me advice !!!!:thumbs:

Moton?
Nitron?
KW ?

[shimmy]

i now am on TEIN ss coilover...yeah i know not the best but i am very satisfied so far....


I am not going to the track so often but i want something good either way..

I want the car to behave like an M3 but firmer more stable...
When hitting a pothole i don't want to feel like the suspension is bottomed out...
Neither to feel the car hard, bumpy or crashy

I want a reduced body roll ( fr/r bushes , anti roll bars , struts allready on the car ) but with a superb handling...( too much to ask ha?...)

hahahaahahaha:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

so give me advice !!!!:thumbs:

Moton?
Nitron?
KW ?

You just want your car to look MAX POWER dont you Nick!!!

From what you say above you will not be hapy with any nof the choices. I suggest you stick with your Tein stuff or go OEM:smokin:

But you wont listen :supz:

[mattCSLnut]

hahahaahahaha:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

so give me advice !!!!:thumbs:

Moton?
Nitron?
KW ?

I'm no expert on what's best for others :smt102 but I did just purchase the Bilstein PSS10 for my CSL as I've always got on well with "Bilstein" products on my other cars, over the years @ the Ring and fancied this kit for a while :thumbs: especially as it's also "proven & tested" @ the Nurburgring's Nordschleif, where I clock up most of my CSLs TD miles :whistle:
It was a " No brainer " when it popped up For Sale on here, few days ago :whistle: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/c...bilstein-pss10

[nick///M3]

You just want your car to look MAX POWER dont you Nick!!!

From what you say above you will not be hapy with any nof the choices. I suggest you stick with your Tein stuff or go OEM:smokin:

But you wont listen :supz:

nope i most certainly don't !!
i said i want something better

i wouldn't go ahead and plan to spend some serious money ( for me at least 2-2,5k is something big ) on suspension if i was still ok with what the tein offers...

simply i am not satisfied any more....

and i don't believe that the 2-3 kits i am thinking are worse than what i currently have on....

as for the oem getting a new csl suspension is close to 1,3-1,5k cause i need everything ( top mounts, rear mounts, bump stops etc ) and i am not sure that it would work well on the car....its not a csl....:banghead:

i simply want something that rides well is firm don't feel "crashy" and can see track time easily...

and to give me the possibility to lower the car 1-1,5cm is a bonus...

[nick///M3]

I'm no expert on what's best for others :smt102 but I did just purchase the Bilstein PSS10 for my CSL as I've always got on well with "Bilstein" products on my other cars, over the years @ the Ring and fancied this kit for a while :thumbs: especially as it's also "proven & tested" @ the Nurburgring's Nordschleif, where I clock up most of my CSLs TD miles :whistle:
It was a " No brainer " when it popped up For Sale on here, few days ago :whistle: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/c...bilstein-pss10

did not consider the bilstein at all cause i had some very bad experience with pss9 in the past when a shock broke in the middle of a turn....

i have my mind set on the 2-3 kit's that i told you above...

[mattCSLnut]

did not consider the bilstein at all cause i had some very bad experience with pss9 in the past when a shock broke in the middle of a turn....
ou above...

Was that before or after you hit a pot hole ? :hahaha: :whistle:
Just because you had problems with the PSS9 doesn't mean they are all like that + the PSS10 is an improvement over PSS9 and they are fully adjustable. I've once heard of Intrax front shock snapping in a half @ the Ring :119: but again it doesn't mean that all others on here with Intrax are going to have this problem, well at least no one else (thankfully) has reported this :whistle:

[DazBlackCSL]

Was that before or after you hit a pot hole ? :hahaha: :whistle:
Just because you had problems with the PSS9 doesn't mean they are all like that + the PSS10 is an improvement over PSS9 and they are fully adjustable. I've once heard of Intrax front shock snapping in a half @ the Ring :119: but again it doesn't mean that all others on here with Intrax are going to have this problem, well at least no one else (thankfully) has reported this :whistle:

Apart from curly in race 1 in front on me last year's CSL cup race at brands :hahaha:

[alexk]

You just want your car to look MAX POWER dont you Nick!!!

From what you say above you will not be hapy with any nof the choices. I suggest you stick with your Tein stuff or go OEM:smokin:

But you wont listen :supz:

+1
OEM for the road will be the best option

Unless you can wait till next spring that I will have a set of ohlins R&T in my hands :whistle:

[nick///M3]

+1
OEM for the road will be the best option

Unless you can wait till next spring that I will have a set of ohlins R&T in my hands :whistle:

Alex even if i wait i won't bring my self to justify so much cost for suspension or so complex....

do they even offer one for the E46?
you may know better on this but i have searched and nothing...

i can't run the oem csl...
i have been talking with some friends here and said the same thing.."run the oem csl !!!!! " but after a phone call this afternoon my thoughts of it not working well, were accurate from another guy running csl suspension on normal M3...not quite as good as it really is on the csl...the f@cking weight is "killing" me in all sorts of things.....

should of have gotten that csl in the first place....:banghead::banghead:

[alexk]

Alex even if i wait i won't bring my self to justify so much cost for suspension or so complex....

do they even offer one for the E46?
you may know better on this but i have searched and nothing...

i can't run the oem csl...
i have been talking with some friends here and said the same thing.."run the oem csl !!!!! " but after a phone call this afternoon my thoughts of it not working well, were accurate from another guy running csl suspension on normal M3...not quite as good as it really is on the csl...the f@cking weight is "killing" me in all sorts of things.....

should of have gotten that csl in the first place....:banghead::banghead:

They were making racing version (which is not what you want) @ approximately 1500 euros per shock.
But, they will produce next year a road + track version (something similar to KW V3)...
I will fit one in my car to help them test the suspension :drool:

OEM :

I don't believe that 100 kilos will make such a big difference.
100 kilos is the weight of a well-fed passenger.
I haven't noticed a problem in my car when I have an extra passenger.