I have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.:thumbs:
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DS2500 disc killers :whistle:Originally posted by Pip1968 View PostHa ha, I was waiting for someone to pipe up. Or squeal like a pig as it were.
As for Clubber I would try my solution (despite having an AP set up) which is just to stick the RS29s in for track and then DS2500 for road. Incidentally I do not seem to get any noise from RS29s on my AP set up :whistle:.
Pip :hahaha:
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I am a track novice biffer neil but doesn't that method of driving make for "off the boil lap times"Originally posted by Neil M View PostI have to admit that RS29's do tend to squeal particularly when they are cold on OEM Calipers, but as I only ever use my brakes to bring the car to a stop, I use gears to slow down, using the Gears = No Squeal.:thumbs:
and more importantly put additional strain on the drive train?
better to trash discs and pads scrubbing off speed swiftly?
Apologies Neil. I have just read this back and I sound well informed.
I am not!!:thumbs:
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Originally posted by alexk View PostJust dont put rs29s on oem brakes.
You have been warned !
I tried the bmw anti squeal paste twice.
It was horrible !
RS14 is the way to goI hear you loud and clear. Are you using RS14's ? Pagid dealer told me they would be louder than RS29 for they had less ceramic in them or something. I understand that is not the case.Originally posted by alexk View PostI don't know if everyone is reading here the posts :blalalala:
RS29s on OEM /standard brakes -> SQUEAL of DEATH
RS29s on AP brakes -> do not squeal
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I run RS14s on my AP brakes and they hardly make any noise (the OEM brakes of the M5 squeal far more...).
I am aware of someone that fitted RS14s on the OEM CSL brakes and I don't remember having the problem the RS29s have.
The RS14 is a much softer pad (it wears out much faster) so I don't follow the logic of this pagid dealer.
Btw, Martin can supply you Pagids in good prices.
He is a top guy, great professional and a pleasure to deal with.
Martin > What do you think in terms of noise between RS29 and RS14 ?
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Using engine braking will not excessively wear anything provided you match revs nicely on the way down a box, which of course a CSL does nicely for you. On track it assists braking in big braking zones. Roughly changing down a manual box will wear clutch and transmission.
Really, the damage is negligible as long as you properly service cars/change oils.
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I'm just talking about normal, in traffic driving, I've never been near a track (apart from a Trip to Oulton about 30 years ago - I'm told).
There are no country lanes where I live, just lots of police which does tend to inhibit the performance characteristics of the car. :hahaha:
Gears for gradual braking is the way I was taught to drive many years ago and it's probably the only thing I continue to do.
As the SMG is an auto assisted manual using it to slow down is far more user friendly than a conventional manual IME. :whistle:
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I have RS29's on my porsche, I found the brake fluid made a huge difference in regards to Squealing.
Had new disc and pads fitted last month used with Sunoco R600, and hardly any squeal (at all temps) but i didn't like the brake pedal feel so had it changed it to Brake engineering dot 4 fluid last week.
Now its embarisingly loud when driving normal.
I have never known them to be this loud.
Possibly will go back to r600 and put up with pedal feel.
Shawn
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