Front Wishbones

[shimmy]

please somebody give me chapter and verse on them?


1. how much
2. where from
3. same as M3
4. do they have 1,2,3 bushes/balljoints attached
5. what else do i need

[mattCSLnut]

please somebody give me chapter and verse on them?


1. how much
2. where from
3. same as M3
4. do they have 1,2,3 bushes/balljoints attached
5. what else do i need

These are made by "Lemforder" for BMW so get them from ECP for about £150 + VAT each, as otherwise they are nearly double that @ the Main Stealers :banghead:
BMW CSL part numbers for cross reference are: 31122229454 for the Right wishbone... and: 2112229453 for the Left side. Don't quote me but I believe these are the same as stock E46 M3.
You get both front, inner & outer ball joints in the price but not the rear bush that slides over the end of the wishbone and bolts onto the chassis. This may be the right time to put something a bit more Racy in there, and I don't meant that purple bubble gum stuff from Powerflex :clown:

[mattCSLnut]

Here's a diagram :smokin:

[shimmy]

These are made by "Lemforder" for BMW so get them from ECP for about £150 + VAT each, as otherwise they are nearly double that @ the Main Stealers :banghead:
BMW CSL part numbers for cross reference are: 31122229454 for the Right wishbone... and: 2112229453 for the Left side. Don't quote me but I believe these are the same as stock E46 M3.
You get both front, inner & outer ball joints in the price but not the rear bush that slides over the end of the wishbone and bolts onto the chassis. This may be the right time to put something a bit more Racy in there, and I don't meant that purple bubble gum stuff from Powerflex :clown:

Cheers Matt, yes just checked Realoem and M3 the same code.

What's more racey?

[mattCSLnut]

Cheers Matt, yes just checked Realoem and M3 the same code.

What's more racey?

Something like this... http://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-35...ce-e46-m3.aspx perfect for your Track Slag.

[mattCSLnut]

... or this: http://www.ground-control-store.com/.../II=162/CA=263 :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

... or even these :smokin: http://www.rogueengineering.com/rogu...H/RE_FCAB.html

[DuncanR]

Why the fook are all those bushes made in the USA , bought by Brits, and then fitted to a German car ?
Those are simple engineering, surely someone in the UK produces the same? :smt102

[CraigMillwardCroft]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha: TRUE

[shane@mbtech]

The "genuine" lemforder from ECP are not the same quality as oe from BMW.
Trust me on this one.

The guy from ECP came out to our gaffe. Saying the bushes were 100% the same, he was wit the lemforder guy, they were both adamant they were exactly 100% the same. We knew just b looking they were not. We then got sme real bushes out of our stock. They looked, felt completely different. The ECP lemforder stuff lasts only 1/3 of time too.

Find some updated race arms shim, your car is hardly a comfortable cruiser,

[mattCSLnut]

Why the fook are all those bushes made in the USA , bought by Brits, and then fitted to a German car ?
Those are simple engineering, surely someone in the UK produces the same? :smt102

That's Globalisation :clown: for you dUnk. :banghead:
To be fair the Americans fit them as well, it's just majority of them don't get to use these to their full potential :whistle:
... too many straight roads in the US :hahaha:

[shimmy]

The "genuine" lemforder from ECP are not the same quality as oe from BMW.
Trust me on this one.

The guy from ECP came out to our gaffe. Saying the bushes were 100% the same, he was wit the lemforder guy, they were both adamant they were exactly 100% the same. We knew just b looking they were not. We then got sme real bushes out of our stock. They looked, felt completely different. The ECP lemforder stuff lasts only 1/3 of time too.

Find some updated race arms shim, your car is hardly a comfortable cruiser,

Now I am confused......

Lemforder are not the same as OeM (but only the ball joint is fixed)
Get race bushes (but that makes ride even harder)
Get race arms (are they found somewhere else)?

[shane@mbtech]

Now I am confused......

Lemforder are not the same as OeM (but only the ball joint is fixed)
Get race bushes (but that makes ride even harder)
Get race arms (are they found somewhere else)?

Is it your wishbone ball joint thats gone?

Which one, inner(subframe) or outer(hub)?

The rear bush gives the car compliance, and changing that to a "solid" bush will make the drive a fair bit harsher.

The arms and the rear bush are seperate items.

You need to buy the wishbone, then if you so desire buy standard rear bush or uprated rear bush. I would buy uprated,

Why dont you get the wishbone arm changed under warranty, then fit uprated rear bushes?

[mattCSLnut]

Why dont you get the wishbone arm changed under warranty, then fit uprated rear bushes?

IIRC suspension part are only covered upto 60K miles under BMW warranty and Shimmy is waaaay past that :smokin:

[shimmy]

IIRC suspension part are only covered upto 60K miles under BMW warranty and Shimmy is waaaay past that :smokin:

yes advice at weekend was that 88k miles may be a bit too late (although this is my second arm already!)