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    #16
    Liking the sound of the carbotech's

    Does anybody else here use them?

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      #17
      Originally posted by lawsy View Post
      If its genuinely like that let me know, your in car camera at Spa would be no good though as I was too far ahead for it:birdman:

      It did snatch at the back a little, that was with xp10 front and rear. So I went 12 front 10 rear for Spa/ring, it did seem a little more composed.

      It always felt Ok to me, but others watching commented on how it seemed twitchy, thats why I staggered set-up.

      Shitty Alcons you see:hahaha:
      Was just kidding

      I wonder if slicks would make th performance of pads change and therefore affect choice of front and rear pads?

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        #18
        Originally posted by gav View Post
        Liking the sound of the carbotech's

        Does anybody else here use them?
        running xp10's at the mow, purely because i fancied a change. ran rs29's before and currnetly running them in the rear.

        no real benafits, xp10's are more expensive and are more prone to squeal. plus alot heavier on discs. if you happy with rs29's stick with them. if for whatever reason your not i'd go upto xp12. :thumbs:

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          #19
          Originally posted by shimmy View Post
          Was just kidding

          I wonder if slicks would make th performance of pads change and therefore affect choice of front and rear pads?
          I was braking in the same points as me and you were at Spa on the slicks, I then realised I was braking far too early for the slicks. I was freewheeling.

          I started braking later, that was one of the most noteable things going from A048's to slicks. How much later I could brake.

          After following you and watching you, I felt that the slicks made my car behave the same as yours did on cups.

          The A048's just didnt have the same grip/composure as cups.

          But yes, tyre choice should be made in conjunction with pad choice.

          I just prefer the carbotech, I have noted no excessive wear on discs. My CSL is still on the original Alcon discs and has been through 2 sets of ds2500, 1 set of RS29's and 3 sets of Carbotechs, about to go onto 4th set. Discs are still good, I reckon ill get this year out of the discs. Thats approx 12k road miles and approx 10 trackdays and 1 ring trip.

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            #20
            Originally posted by dave wilkinson View Post
            running xp10's at the mow, purely because i fancied a change. ran rs29's before and currnetly running them in the rear.

            no real benafits, xp10's are more expensive and are more prone to squeal. plus alot heavier on discs. if you happy with rs29's stick with them. if for whatever reason your not i'd go upto xp12. :thumbs:
            Mine dont squeal in my Alcons, they didnt in the AP's. Im now on XP12's which theoretically should squeal more.

            You are running K Sport and they are prone to pads sticking as piston does not return 100%, this would cause your squeal.

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              #21
              My rs29's front and rear need replacing and I'm happy with the set up/handling and disc wear so will buy again.

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                #22
                Originally posted by plumber vic View Post
                Yes Graham u need to get pads replaced to keep up with me at donny
                Less than a month to go the banter has begun :thumbs:

                Any of you chaps know how to identify calipers? Everyone tells me it has part numbers on them, clearly mine must be the set that don't have any....I know the fronts are differentiated by whether they have dust seals or not, are the rears the same?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Graham View Post
                  Less than a month to go the banter has begun :thumbs:

                  Any of you chaps know how to identify calipers? Everyone tells me it has part numbers on them, clearly mine must be the set that don't have any....I know the fronts are differentiated by whether they have dust seals or not, are the rears the same?
                  The part no. is etched between the mounting holes on the caliper so you need to separate the caliper from the mounting bracket.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Babw View Post
                    The part no. is etched between the mounting holes on the caliper so you need to separate the caliper from the mounting bracket.
                    although CP5575 and CP5555 are two e46 front callipers and only difference is 1mm thickness difference in front pads, same shape/profile pads used.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by lawsy View Post
                      Mine dont squeal in my Alcons, they didnt in the AP's. Im now on XP12's which theoretically should squeal more.

                      You are running K Sport and they are prone to pads sticking as piston does not return 100%, this would cause your squeal.
                      i can 100% confirm i have no sticking pads and all pistons return fully and brakes don't bind. got friends running xp8's in evo's with ap's and they squeal.

                      gav the lancer register is full of info on the xp range and they'll be a pad to suit your need. two thread may be worth a read before committing. :thumbs:

                      have just ordered a set of these, looking forward to get them! :smthumbup have heard they are noisey though, just how bad are we talking about the brake squeal? slight chirp when coming to a stop? or does it sound like a massive f**k off Artic Lorry is coming to a hault? :eek:


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                        #26
                        Originally posted by dave wilkinson View Post
                        i can 100% confirm i have no sticking pads and all pistons return fully and brakes don't bind. got friends running xp8's in evo's with ap's and they squeal.

                        gav the lancer register is full of info on the xp range and they'll be a pad to suit your need. two thread may be worth a read before committing. :thumbs:

                        have just ordered a set of these, looking forward to get them! :smthumbup have heard they are noisey though, just how bad are we talking about the brake squeal? slight chirp when coming to a stop? or does it sound like a massive f**k off Artic Lorry is coming to a hault? :eek:


                        http://www.lancerregister.com/search...rchid=14411054
                        I have never had brake squeal with Carbotech, but Will does in his K sports on the Evo

                        Likewise I know loads with no squeal, but some do.

                        I guarantee your K Sports do hold the pad ever so slightly against the disc compared to AP, its to do with the seal behind piston, is square rather than round and it stops the piston being as free as say the AP's are.


                        Standard Evo brembo and K sports seem to suffer more.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Babw View Post
                          The part no. is etched between the mounting holes on the caliper so you need to separate the caliper from the mounting bracket.
                          Ah, you would not believe how many people I've spoken to about it & you're the first person to tell me that!! Thanks mate will remove a front & rear caliper and get some pads ordered up

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