rear wheels on the front

[Mike RT4]

Lovely .

Could you (both) post up some side on and ¾ angle pictures showing both the front and rears together ?

This sort of angle:

[Neil M]

Looks like a great set-up Ben, for reversing (Rear wheels on the front)? :hahaha:
If it was the optimum set-up don't you think BMW would have adopted it and just used one wheel size, would make commercial sense if nothing else?

[cslsuperfan]

totally agree neil,
i'm famous for messing about with the perfect set up.....
"no idea with some of the gear!"
if i'm honest the car felt better to drive with standard fronts and 15mm spacers but as billy's csl beautifully illustrates...it looks f...ing lovely and agressive and i'm going to persist with the square set up in the hope that i will adjust to the feel of the car's behaviour...

Looks like a great set-up Ben, for reversing (Rear wheels on the front)? :hahaha:
If it was the optimum set-up don't you think BMW would have adopted it and just used one wheel size, would make commercial sense if nothing else?

[cslsuperfan]

Mike R,
now i've sussed pic upload
i'll drag the car out on the next dry day and snap away

mine's no match for billy's csl in the picture department, i first saw billy's csl @ elms meet in oct 2011...well i heard it first about half a mile from elms on approach!!!
It really is a sound to behold....

Lovely .

Could you (both) post up some side on and ¾ angle pictures showing both the front and rears together ?

This sort of angle:

[mattCSLnut]

i'm famous for messing about with the perfect set up.....
"no idea with some of the gear!"
if i'm honest the car felt better to drive with standard fronts and 15mm spacers but as billy's csl beautifully illustrates...it looks f...ing lovely and agressive and i'm going to persist with the square set up in the hope that i will adjust to the feel of the car's behaviour...

I'll guarantee you Ben the Tram lining will eventually P**S you off good & proper on our pot hole ridden roads. Yes ! it looks great but...
I run a square 19" rears all round (albeit) E46 M3 19" rears which are the same size & off set as the CSL rears but a little heavier. It lasted less than 8 months and I'm now back to OEM 19" CSL set up with full PHAT CUPs and 12 mm H&R spacers @ the front + 10 mm H&R spacers @ the back. For me this combination is sweet as a nut :supz:

[cslsuperfan]

Matt,
thanks for your take on all things square
your cesil looks mint with the black wheels....front end looks even sharper with the black rims....oh christ! i've now got a spare set of rims so post munich i'll refurb in black....your bbk really stands out...loving it!!:thumbs:

I'll guarantee you Ben the Tram lining will eventually P**S you off good & proper on our pot hole ridden roads. Yes ! it looks great but...
I run a square 19" rears all round (albeit) E46 M3 19" rears which are the same size & off set as the CSL rears but a little heavier. It lasted less than 8 months and I'm now back to OEM 19" CSL set up with full PHAT CUPs and 12 mm H&R spacers @ the front + 10 mm H&R spacers @ the back. For me this combination is sweet as a nut :supz:

[mattCSLnut]

Matt,
thanks for your take on all things square
your cesil looks mint with the black wheels....front end looks even sharper with the black rims....oh christ! i've now got a spare set of rims so post munich i'll refurb in black....your bbk really stands out...loving it!!:thumbs:

Oh No !!! Look what I've done now !!! :hahaha: Oh well ... here's a few more pix for Satin Black wheel inspiration :thumbs:
Yeah the Red BREMBO BBK really stood out against the black wheel but I just prefer the "Sleeper" OEM look with cheeky spacers :supz:

[northernjim]

Neil define 'optimum' :wink: it all depends on your priorities :beer:

80 mile test drive today.

no rubbing on front arches on road test

car clatters a little more over poor road surfaces(30 profile doesn't seem to affect speedo accuracy.. 80mph @ 3000 rpm which is what it was before running 235's on the front)

tramlining is interesting!!

turn in is sharp!!! cesil behaved well but the tramlining keeps you honest and both hands definitely on the wheel

i'll bring both front wheels on the munich trip just incase i have a change of heart:-D

I would drive on the front wheels, and bring the rears for the ring and the salzburgring.....
then you will look tough on track where it counts and won't wear your inner edges on the million mile motorway journey:beer:

[mattCSLnut]

I would drive on the front wheels, and bring the rears for the ring and the salzburgring.....
then you will look tough on track where it counts and won't wear your inner edges on the million mile motorway journey:beer:

That's the most sensible thing you've said in a while Jim :wink: :hahaha:... U feeling OK mate ? :goodman:

[northernjim]

:hahaha::bigcry::birdman:


I do have the odd moment of clarity Matt :smokin:

[mattCSLnut]

:hahaha::bigcry::birdman:


I do have the odd moment of clarity Matt :smokin:

Fortunately (for us) it's only momentary :wink: :hahaha:

[AlexGTT]

I would drive on the front wheels, and bring the rears for the ring and the salzburgring.....
then you will look tough on track where it counts and won't wear your inner edges on the million mile motorway journey:beer:

That's what I do now Jim. Also well covered for any puncture issues on the road, front or rear. :wink:

[cslsuperfan]

I would drive on the front wheels, and bring the rears for the ring and the salzburgring.....
then you will look tough on track where it counts and won't wear your inner edges on the million mile motorway journey:beer:

point taken jim,

rears in the boot on route :-D

[Neil M]

Neil define 'optimum' :wink: it all depends on your priorities :beer:

'Optimum' The best or most favorable condition, the greatest amount or degree possible under specific sets of comparable circumstances, you had to ask Jimbo :hahaha:

My understanding is that the CSL was developed on a track, specifically the 'Ring', however as most normal roads bare little or no resemblance to that, what we have is a compromise in the interests of general usability. :thumbs:

[glendog74]

Ben,

What was your outcome in the end?

Do you run 19" rears all round all the time or only on special occasions? :wink:

Rob